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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Help and Advice => Topic started by: rodrigoFS on Oct 05, 2010, 02:35: PM
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i've gotten a TATW before but i cant get em perfectly. i cant get the last touch of the crossover; how can i get the TATW better?
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just have to keep practising. At the start I could only land 1 on the day. After a few days of constant practise I can get quite a few. Don't do atw too high, keep it low, then you have time to bring your foot back to do crossover- that's the way I've been doing it.
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yeah man its practice, may seem impossible at first but gets a lot simpler if u keep practicing them for like 4 days solid
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Heya man, here's my take on it.... and I'm right where you are: landing them, but inconsistently.
I'm trying to keep the following in mind when I attempt them -- this should be one fluid motion, not two tricks crammed together. Get enough power from your weak leg by thinking that your crossover touch should be at the very top of your jump, because trying to execute the cross "on the way down" is probably impossible. Bend your weak knee enough to get sufficient elevation off the ground to do a solid, deliberate crossover, not some weak-ass touch as you struggle to not fall over. The accuracy of your first (atw) touch is also critical, as the ball's position when you get to the crossover phase of the trick will determine if you hit it correctly, if at all. Make sure the ball goes straight up on the atw and not to the sides and focus on a deliberate, controlled second touch at the apex of your jump. And your weight shifts from weak-leg to strong.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
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You haven't given much info, but I'll try to help. Keep the ball below the knee when doing the first touch. This gives you less time to think[which you don't want to be doing] and gives you the 'pop' that you want out of a tatw. I think it's important to 'lock' your jump at about 3/5ths over the ball and then swing the second foot.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
I'd agree if he hasn't landed the move before.
But he already HAS landed it. Which means somewhere in his muscle memory is the key to tatw. The only way to bring it out is to practice. He's also asking about 'how he can get better at tatw', the only way to get better is to keep practicing the move over and over.
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You haven't given much info, but I'll try to help. Keep the ball below the knee when doing the first touch. This gives you less time to think[which you don't want to be doing] and gives you the 'pop' that you want out of a tatw. I think it's important to 'lock' your jump at about 3/5ths over the ball and then swing the second foot.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
I'd agree if he hasn't landed the move before.
But he already HAS landed it. Which means somewhere in his muscle memory is the key to tatw. The only way to bring it out is to practice. He's also asking about 'how he can get better at tatw', the only way to get better is to keep practicing the move over and over.
Then why didn't you just go with the pat-answer, "practice more?" You gave him advice here, which is excellent advice, and that's great. Just because he's landed it before doesn't mean he doesn't need specific help, for which he asked. I'm talking about the idiots that ONLY say "practice." (which didn't really happen on this thread, anyway) Relax, man ... we're on the same team.
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Heya man, here's my take on it.... and I'm right where you are: landing them, but inconsistently.
I'm trying to keep the following in mind when I attempt them -- this should be one fluid motion, not two tricks crammed together. Get enough power from your weak leg by thinking that your crossover touch should be at the very top of your jump, because trying to execute the cross "on the way down" is probably impossible. Bend your weak knee enough to get sufficient elevation off the ground to do a solid, deliberate crossover, not some weak-ass touch as you struggle to not fall over. The accuracy of your first (atw) touch is also critical, as the ball's position when you get to the crossover phase of the trick will determine if you hit it correctly, if at all. Make sure the ball goes straight up on the atw and not to the sides and focus on a deliberate, controlled second touch at the apex of your jump. And your weight shifts from weak-leg to strong.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
Dude, I know that you're giving him lots of "useful" advice?
But you go into way too much detail, it just becomes ridiculous and isn't necessary. If you just watch a tatw in slow-mo you can tell when you're supposed to jump. Think about all those people who freestyle'd without tutorials etc. Generally, when you're learning a trick there's only the KEY point which everyone fails at, in the beginning.
If you have landed the trick, it's practice from there on to improve consistency/style etc. You don't need a tutorial for a trick you have landed.
No hate
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Heya man, here's my take on it.... and I'm right where you are: landing them, but inconsistently.
I'm trying to keep the following in mind when I attempt them -- this should be one fluid motion, not two tricks crammed together. Get enough power from your weak leg by thinking that your crossover touch should be at the very top of your jump, because trying to execute the cross "on the way down" is probably impossible. Bend your weak knee enough to get sufficient elevation off the ground to do a solid, deliberate crossover, not some weak-ass touch as you struggle to not fall over. The accuracy of your first (atw) touch is also critical, as the ball's position when you get to the crossover phase of the trick will determine if you hit it correctly, if at all. Make sure the ball goes straight up on the atw and not to the sides and focus on a deliberate, controlled second touch at the apex of your jump. And your weight shifts from weak-leg to strong.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
Dude, I know that you're giving him lots of "useful" advice?
But you go into way too much detail, it just becomes ridiculous and isn't necessary. If you just watch a tatw in slow-mo you can tell when you're supposed to jump. Think about all those people who freestyle'd without tutorials etc. Generally, when you're learning a trick there's only the KEY point which everyone fails at, in the beginning.
If you have landed the trick, it's practice from there on to improve consistency/style etc. You don't need a tutorial for a trick you have landed.
No hate
Agreed, agreed -- I've a bad habit of overthinking things. And you're very right about those who do all of it without tutorials... I've been striving to follow that notion myself. Cheers.
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You haven't given much info, but I'll try to help. Keep the ball below the knee when doing the first touch. This gives you less time to think[which you don't want to be doing] and gives you the 'pop' that you want out of a tatw. I think it's important to 'lock' your jump at about 3/5ths over the ball and then swing the second foot.
With all due respect to those who parrot the weak-ass "advice" of "keep practicing," that's NOT what this kid's asking for. Practice is a GIVEN, and reducing your input to "practice" is, while encouraging and well-intended, aggravating and no real help at all. I know this has been bitched about before, but I felt like it deserved another mention.
Good luck, dude... I'm getting better at TATW every day. I know you will, too!
I'd agree if he hasn't landed the move before.
But he already HAS landed it. Which means somewhere in his muscle memory is the key to tatw. The only way to bring it out is to practice. He's also asking about 'how he can get better at tatw', the only way to get better is to keep practicing the move over and over.
Then why didn't you just go with the pat-answer, "practice more?" You gave him advice here, which is excellent advice, and that's great. Just because he's landed it before doesn't mean he doesn't need specific help, for which he asked. I'm talking about the idiots that ONLY say "practice." (which didn't really happen on this thread, anyway) Relax, man ... we're on the same team.
To be honest, I just gave advice so that if anyone uses the search function, they could find this topic and have an answer.
I'm pretty sure this guy only needs to practice..like I said, he has landed the trick, therefore he must atleast have a vague idea[subconciously maybe] on how to perform tatw.
But I do agree with the 'just practice' thing, just not in this case.
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don't hate on me for being a noob, but i agree. it's all practice. i went home one day after a meet with the legendary joe davies and decided that i'd landed tatw. took me a long solid 4 hrs of hard practice to land the first one. and from then it was just more practice.
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When your doing the atw, bend your standing leg and don't do the atw too high..Wait till your about 3/4 way around the ball then jump..I try to slightly kick the ball to the right a little bit (because I'm right footed) to get more height..I found that bending your leg helped A LOT..I could never do them, then Pete told me to bend my leg more and I got it straight away :grin: :grin:
Hope it helps