Beyond Football - Freestyle Football Forum
General Category => General Chat => Topic started by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Mar 25, 2008, 11:08: AM
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I know most of you exercise and try to eat well.
How far do you go beyond soccer to keep/get yourself in/into shape?
What has been your ideal combination of exercise and healthy eating? What are your exercise secrets? What is your favorite exercise/workout?
How do you utilize supplements, control decadent behavior, etc.?
Discuss/share...
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i dont go to gyms, and i dont do any kind of pushupps or nothing like that, i just play football 2-3 hours a day every day, and i dont really watch what i eat, i eat alot of sweet stuff, chocolates, ice cream, chips, etc...
Football works for me, my weight is 54 kgs and im 1.80 mts
although i would want to know some excercices to get a six pack, because right now i have a 4 pack (wich is pretty good if you consider that i dont do push ups)
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I eat pizza often, since there's a store right near my school and we go there for lunch, but I only eat there because I know I can eventually burn it off. I play hockey, and I play soccer in the summer. I can say I'm quite the active guy.. so I don't really mind my eating, and to be honest, I never eat fruits alone, it has to be with something else.
I work out after school, I only started last September, but it's been good.
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I do 3 big sets of pushups every other day, as well as a set of 200 or so situps and a set of leg-raises. I run when its warm (training for soccer, track and x-country), and I occasionally lift weights. I play soccer all years round for like 10 hours per week in the winter, and practically all day every day in the summer (I work at a soccer camp)
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I eat pizza often, since there's a store right near my school and we go there for lunch, but I only eat there because I know I can eventually burn it off. I play hockey, and I play soccer in the summer. I can say I'm quite the active guy.. so I don't really mind my eating, and to be honest, I never eat fruits alone, it has to be with something else.
I work out after school, I only started last September, but it's been good.
your kinda like me, exept for the hockey playing thing
What kind of work out do you do?
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i dont go to gyms, and i dont do any kind of pushupps or nothing like that, i just play football 2-3 hours a day every day, and i dont really watch what i eat, i eat alot of sweet stuff, chocolates, ice cream, chips, etc...
Football works for me, my weight is 54 kgs and im 1.80 mts
although i would want to know some excercices to get a six pack, because right now i have a 4 pack (wich is pretty good if you consider that i dont do push ups)
pushups will never ever get you a sixpack...they work on mianlt triceps and pectorals. Do situps and leg-raises.
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i dont go to gyms, and i dont do any kind of pushupps or nothing like that, i just play football 2-3 hours a day every day, and i dont really watch what i eat, i eat alot of sweet stuff, chocolates, ice cream, chips, etc...
Football works for me, my weight is 54 kgs and im 1.80 mts
although i would want to know some excercices to get a six pack, because right now i have a 4 pack (wich is pretty good if you consider that i dont do push ups)
pushups will never ever get you a sixpack...they work on mianlt triceps and pectorals. Do situps and leg-raises.
oo, i confused my Ups, i do leg raises in football training 3 times a week
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i dont go to gyms, and i dont do any kind of pushupps or nothing like that, i just play football 2-3 hours a day every day, and i dont really watch what i eat, i eat alot of sweet stuff, chocolates, ice cream, chips, etc...
Football works for me, my weight is 54 kgs and im 1.80 mts
although i would want to know some excercices to get a six pack, because right now i have a 4 pack (wich is pretty good if you consider that i dont do push ups)
pushups will never ever get you a sixpack...they work on mianlt triceps and pectorals. Do situps and leg-raises.
oo, i confused my Ups, i do leg raises in football training 3 times a week
also, do long distance running...for some reason, it gets your abs ripped
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I eat pizza often, since there's a store right near my school and we go there for lunch, but I only eat there because I know I can eventually burn it off. I play hockey, and I play soccer in the summer. I can say I'm quite the active guy.. so I don't really mind my eating, and to be honest, I never eat fruits alone, it has to be with something else.
I work out after school, I only started last September, but it's been good.
your kinda like me, exept for the hockey playing thing
What kind of work out do you do?
It's been a bit screwed.. I use to do upper body every day, but now with soccer coming, I'm moving down to upper one day, then lower the next, and so on.
I do 3 big sets of pushups every other day, as well as a set of 200 or so situps and a set of leg-raises. I run when its warm (training for soccer, track and x-country), and I occasionally lift weights. I play soccer all years round for like 10 hours per week in the winter, and practically all day every day in the summer (I work at a soccer camp)
Are you good at running? Last year in Grade 8, I came first in 1500m and first in cross country, my best year, I posted about this on the forum last year, I wonder if anyone remembers..
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Try this exercise A10s:
I'll do 5 wide push-ups, 5 regular push-ups, 5 close (tricep) push-ups. Then immediately do a set of 5 "lower" half sit-ups, 5 "upper" half sit-ups, and 5 full sit-ups.
I do this as a "half" pyramid. 1-1-1, 1-1-1; 2-2-2, 2-2-2...5-5-5, 5-5-5
For the push-ups:
wide push-ups-set your hands 2xs as wide as a normal pushup
close push-ups-set your hands in the form of a diamond under your chest
For the sit-ups:
"lower" half-from a resting position on the floor half-way through the normal sit-up motion then immediately back to the floor
"upper" half-from a resting position at your knees halfway down the normal sit-up motion then immediately back to the knees
When I do this, I'll usually do multiple sets e.g. 3xs the half pyramid workout.
I like a lot of variation in my workouts. This has been something that has been able to keep me interested in "working out."
@Borg:
I'm sure most of the others on this forum are pretty similar. I was pretty damned patriotic my junior and senior years of high school and put on a bunch of weight. I've had to alter my lifestyle to take most of it off.
:cheers:
@totalfootball10:
You'd be surprised at how much a push-up works you. It can be utilized to target your abs. However, sit-ups and leg-raises will definitely work them harder.
Cardio like a mother fucker will keep your body fat % pretty low.
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I eat pizza often, since there's a store right near my school and we go there for lunch, but I only eat there because I know I can eventually burn it off. I play hockey, and I play soccer in the summer. I can say I'm quite the active guy.. so I don't really mind my eating, and to be honest, I never eat fruits alone, it has to be with something else.
I work out after school, I only started last September, but it's been good.
your kinda like me, exept for the hockey playing thing
What kind of work out do you do?
It's been a bit screwed.. I use to do upper body every day, but now with soccer coming, I'm moving down to upper one day, then lower the next, and so on.
I do 3 big sets of pushups every other day, as well as a set of 200 or so situps and a set of leg-raises. I run when its warm (training for soccer, track and x-country), and I occasionally lift weights. I play soccer all years round for like 10 hours per week in the winter, and practically all day every day in the summer (I work at a soccer camp)
Are you good at running? Last year in Grade 8, I came first in 1500m and first in cross country, my best year, I posted about this on the forum last year, I wonder if anyone remembers..
in your grade, or in the meet? anyhow...I'm decent...I come top 20 at the big meets...and my time for 1500 is down to 5:00 now I think. I do it mostly as a supplement for soccer. My best distance is 3k, which I can now get in a good deal under 12 minutes (did 3.5-4k in 13 mins, so...). Did you do x-country this year? You are in gr. 9, right, so your distance would be 5k. Mine is like 6-6.5k now, seeing as i'm in grade 10.
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Try this exercise A10s:
I'll do 5 wide push-ups, 5 regular push-ups, 5 close (tricep) push-ups. Then immediately do a set of 5 "lower" half sit-ups, 5 "upper" half sit-ups, and 5 full sit-ups.
I do this as a "half" pyramid. 1-1-1, 1-1-1; 2-2-2, 2-2-2...5-5-5, 5-5-5
For the push-ups:
wide push-ups-set your hands 2xs as wide as a normal pushup
close push-ups-set your hands in the form of a diamond under your chest
For the sit-ups:
"lower" half-from a resting position on the floor half-way through the normal sit-up motion then immediately back to the floor
"upper" half-from a resting position at your knees halfway down the normal sit-up motion then immediately back to the knees
When I do this, I'll usually do multiple sets e.g. 3xs the half pyramid workout.
I like a lot of variation in my workouts. This has been something that has been able to keep me interested in "working out."
@Borg:
I'm sure most of the others on this forum are pretty similar. I was pretty damned patriotic my junior and senior years of high school and put on a bunch of weight. I've had to alter my lifestyle to take most of it off.
:cheers:
@totalfootball10:
You'd be surprised at how much a push-up works you. It's a pretty useful workout.
Cardio like a mother fucker will keep your body fat % pretty low.
the close-together pushups are sorta bad for your wrists + elbows. And trust, I know how tiring a good pushup workout can be. I usually do sets along the lines of 60-60-40, so I end up tired afterwards. And yes, cardio is the shit. Martial arts help with that too, and I do a fair amount of it, alongside all the other stuffd and schoolwork.
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Good post bud. ;)
Sometimes, me and my friends like to change things around a bit. We'd take 45 lbs. and put it on our back while doing pushups. (Someone should be spotting just incase something happens.)
My friend also does sit ups and starts out with 45 lbs in his hands, then I pass him a 35 lbs, then 25 lbs, then 10 lbs, then he finishes. It's a pretty snazzy workout.
in your grade, or in the meet? anyhow...I'm decent...I come top 20 at the big meets...and my time for 1500 is down to 5:00 now I think. I do it mostly as a supplement for soccer. My best distance is 3k, which I can now get in a good deal under 12 minutes (did 3.5-4k in 13 mins, so...). Did you do x-country this year? You are in gr. 9, right, so your distance would be 5k. Mine is like 6-6.5k now, seeing as i'm in grade 10.
In the final meet. I never went to cross-country boards cause I had a tournament, and I was sure I'd be able to crack the top 20. (The boards is way harder, just so everyone knows.)
I once ran 8km thinking it was 5km. I was prepping for our actual 5km run with my hockey team.
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Good post bud. ;)
Sometimes, me and my friends like to change things around a bit. We'd take 45 lbs. and put it on our back while doing pushups. (Someone should be spotting just incase something happens.)
My friend also does sit ups and starts out with 45 lbs in his hands, then I pass him a 35 lbs, then 25 lbs, then 10 lbs, then he finishes. It's a pretty snazzy workout.
in your grade, or in the meet? anyhow...I'm decent...I come top 20 at the big meets...and my time for 1500 is down to 5:00 now I think. I do it mostly as a supplement for soccer. My best distance is 3k, which I can now get in a good deal under 12 minutes (did 3.5-4k in 13 mins, so...). Did you do x-country this year? You are in gr. 9, right, so your distance would be 5k. Mine is like 6-6.5k now, seeing as i'm in grade 10.
In the final meet. I never went to cross-country boards cause I had a tournament, and I was sure I'd be able to crack the top 20. (The boards is way harder, just so everyone knows.)
I once ran 8km thinking it was 5km. I was prepping for our actual 5km run with my hockey team.
8k isnt that bad...its the distance for senior runners. I ran like 9-10k from avenue road and eglinton to a good km past young and st. clair, and then back again. It was a beast of a run...I dropped like a stone when I got back...and it was at a pretty competitive pace too. And if you placed 1st in grade 8, you should definitely crack the top 20. I never get into the top spots. Its always been like that :down: I always get the same place (between 22 and 18) :bs:
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the close-together pushups are sorta bad for your wrists + elbows. And trust, I know how tiring a good pushup workout can be. I usually do sets along the lines of 60-60-40, so I end up tired afterwards. And yes, cardio is the shit. Martial arts help with that too, and I do a fair amount of it, alongside all the other stuffd and schoolwork.
People tend to blow the "it's generally bad for you" shit way out of proportion. As long as you do them properly, they shouldn't give you any problems, but as with anything, if it hurts, don't do it.
Yeah, I edited to clarify. I meant that you could utilize the push-up to target your abs as well.
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Grade 6:
Cross Country: 2nd
800m (Track): 2nd
Grade 7:
Cross Country: 3rd
800m: 1st
Grade 8:
Cross Country: 1st
1500m: 1st
Those are my "stats". :biggrin:
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Grade 6:
Cross Country: 2nd
800m (Track): 2nd
Grade 7:
Cross Country: 3rd
800m: 1st
Grade 8:
Cross Country: 1st
1500m: 1st
Those are my "stats". :biggrin:
so you didnt run x-country in grade 9? the competition heats up in highschool. Same as in track. You are in the Brampton region, you you don't compete in the cities, do you?
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We had to wake up at 6am just to run like 3km. :down:
I think we compete against Caledon, Orangeville, Mississauga?
Or is Mississauga in your region? Like ROPSSA.
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We had to wake up at 6am just to run like 3km. :down:
I think we compete against Caledon, Orangeville, Mississauga?
Or is Mississauga in your region? Like ROPSSA.
yeah...I hate morning practices...and I am in Toronto, as in my school is downtown, so we are TDSB
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Don't do any real exercisers. Play soccer when ever I get the chance. But Futsal season starts in 2 weeks. Besides that the occasional walk or bike ride to and from Uni or the milk bar when I can't be bothered driving. Eat what you want when you want and fuck the consequence.
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Don't do any real exercisers. Play soccer when ever I get the chance. But Futsal season starts in 2 weeks. Besides that the occasional walk or bike ride to and from Uni or the milk bar when I can't be bothered driving. Eat what you want when you want and fuck the consequence.
for shame...such a degenerate lifestyle :biggrin:
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Lamo thats only half of it I won't mention the rest. I don't know why tho, changing to a fitter life style has always being in my top 5 goals that I never manage to accomplish. Some times I get into to its for a few moths and some how its just falls apart one day and I'm back to square one again.
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Limit yourself to certain things.
Don't just go all out with that bullshit.
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Lamo thats only half of it I won't mention the rest. I don't know why tho, changing to a fitter life style has always being in my top 5 goals that I never manage to accomplish. Some times I get into to its for a few moths and some how its just falls apart one day and I'm back to square one again.
apparently, if you exercise enough, you get hooked on certain chemicals that your body releases that are the same ones that you recieve off certain drugs (i think weed is one, but not sure...maybe shrooms...)...so if you exercise enough, you'll get addicted and thats that :thumbsup:
by the way: do you play a lot of soccer?
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True its not like I just decide to overdose on cheese. But some times breakfast is the only meal I'll have at home I'd be forced to have lunch and dinner at say burger king or KFC lmao. Its alright for a week or 2 but that shit will hurt in the long run. Its been alright this year so far.
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Lamo thats only half of it I won't mention the rest. I don't know why tho, changing to a fitter life style has always being in my top 5 goals that I never manage to accomplish. Some times I get into to its for a few moths and some how its just falls apart one day and I'm back to square one again.
apparently, if you exercise enough, you get hooked on certain chemicals that your body releases that are the same ones that you recieve off certain drugs (i think weed is one, but not sure...maybe shrooms...)...so if you exercise enough, you'll get addicted and thats that :thumbsup:
by the way: do you play a lot of soccer?
naah man I don't fuck with drugs.
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True its not like I just decide to overdose on cheese. But some times breakfast is the only meal I'll have at home I'd be forced to have lunch and dinner at say burger king or KFC lmao. Its alright for a week or 2 but that shit will hurt in the long run. Its been alright this year so far.
yeah...go to Subway, be like Jared...
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Lamo thats only half of it I won't mention the rest. I don't know why tho, changing to a fitter life style has always being in my top 5 goals that I never manage to accomplish. Some times I get into to its for a few moths and some how its just falls apart one day and I'm back to square one again.
apparently, if you exercise enough, you get hooked on certain chemicals that your body releases that are the same ones that you recieve off certain drugs (i think weed is one, but not sure...maybe shrooms...)...so if you exercise enough, you'll get addicted and thats that :thumbsup:
by the way: do you play a lot of soccer?
naah man I don't fuck with drugs.
not what I meant...exercise gives you similar euphoric effects (though not as pronounced) to certain drugs...I'm saying that you could get hooked on excercise.
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i have an alright lifestyle i go boxing a few days a week and i eat like a dog.
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Chances are some your students or their family members are currently battling depression, and thus may be interested in this story. The link between regular exercise and mood enhancement has been known for some time now. Scientists have established that exercise increases levels of neurotransmitters such as dopamine and serotonin, which in turn have the effect of mood enhancement. As long as sufficient quantities of these compounds are between brain neuron synapses, a person’s mood will be elevated. When conditions change and neurotransmitter levels fall, either due to neuron reuptake of the transmitter or lack of production, a person’s mood can deflate. One long-term effect is depression
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Subway is bullshit no way the amount of grams they say is in the food on the package is that much. Its probably only the meat with out the bread, sauces ect ect.
Your right about exercise being addictive.
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Subway is bullshit no way the amount of grams they say is in the food on the package is that much. Its probably only the meat with out the bread, sauces ect ect.
Your right about exercise being addictive.
still tastes good and is comparatively healthy when you look at macdonalds, BK, KFC, etc...
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macdonals is sick as. i love it :bowdown:
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macdonals is sick as. i love it :bowdown:
Its all about Tim Hortons :thumbsup:
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macdonals is sick as. i love it :bowdown:
Its all about Tim Hortons :thumbsup:
They wouldn't know what that is. :biggrin:
I haven't been to the weight room in like 2 weeks because I'm so busy.. but I'm really going to start running on the treadmill and work my lower body. But I want ridiculous abs and shit for the summer.
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macdonals is sick as. i love it :bowdown:
Its all about Tim Hortons :thumbsup:
They wouldn't know what that is. :biggrin:
I haven't been to the weight room in like 2 weeks because I'm so busy.. but I'm really going to start running on the treadmill and work my lower body. But I want ridiculous abs and shit for the summer.
i know they dont know, but they should. Tim Hortons is the shit
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Keep that shit north of me.
Krispy Kreme > Tim Hortons
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Keep that shit north of me.
Krispy Kreme > Tim Hortons
you joking? Tims is soooo much better...and Tims has iced caps and good sandwhiches, and soup, and Timbits...and their donuts own the shit out of Krispy Kreme. Stupid american chains :cursing: (actually I;m originally from Indiana, so I can't really talk...)
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I'm surprised Krispy Kreme hasn't taken over.. cause the Americans have pretty much taken over our lifestyle with their media and entertainment.
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I'm surprised Krispy Kreme hasn't taken over.. cause the Americans have pretty much taken over our lifestyle with their media and entertainment.
true. But then again, whenever a Canadian film comes out, critics rate it well just because its Canadian.
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I'd rather eat shit than Tim Hortons.*
*I've never actually eaten at Tim Hortons
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I'd rather eat shit than Tim Hortons.*
*I've never actually eaten at Tim Hortons
come to Canada and do that. :thumbsup: They're everywhere :biggrin:
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
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i lead a very unhealthy lifestyle, i drink regulary, once a week or two. I eat alot of crap, cookies, biscits, sweets, chocolate bars, lots of sugar :biggrin:. I rarely have regular meals and i sleep alot. Only exercise i get is freestyle. I am super unhealthy, but it doesnt bother me.
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
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i run sometimes to keep me fit and i have a strict diet of cocosbread and 'speculaas??' (a cookie) on my bread in the morning and the afternoon (i also eat normal things like meat and peanutbutter on my bread)
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I drink superjuice
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I drink superjuice
I drink megajuice
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I stay fit and healthy by smoking cigarettes and having sex.
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Me go to the gym :thumbsup: sure to make a better body and show to girls on the beach :rockit:
And freestyle also helps a lot!! I sweat a lot when i do freestyle :lol: its like i run 10 rounds of the football pitch :booty:
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I stay fit and healthy by smoking cigarettes and having sex.
If you are ever walking down a street and you happen to come across a puddle of water call me, I'll lay down and let you walk over me rather than getting your shoes wet.
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
What do you mean?
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I drink superjuice
I drink megajuice
I think you might have misinterpreted my post. I wasn't be sarcastic by saying superjuice. Mona-vie is a juice that has over 19 fruits blended together. The Acai berry which is known to be a superfood, beneficial in numerous ways, is in the juice. The juice can help people with joint problems, blood pressure etc. The juice is strong enough that it is recommended that people only drink an ounce a day.
http://www.monavie.com
(http://www.cactuscanyon.com/monavie/monavie-3.jpg)
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i go to the gym 3-4 times a week . and whats most important, i use a training plan :thumbsup:
im 1.80m and 67kg :thumbsup:
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i go to the gym 3-4 times a week . and whats most important, i use a training plan :thumbsup:
im 1.80m and 67kg :thumbsup:
How long have you been going to the gym?
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i go to the gym 3-4 times a week . and whats most important, i use a training plan :thumbsup:
im 1.80m and 67kg :thumbsup:
How long have you been going to the gym?
only 1 year.Why?
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i go to the gym 3-4 times a week . and whats most important, i use a training plan :thumbsup:
im 1.80m and 67kg :thumbsup:
How long have you been going to the gym?
only 1 year.Why?
Pure curiosity, honestly. :cheers:
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i go to the gym 3-4 times a week . and whats most important, i use a training plan :thumbsup:
im 1.80m and 67kg :thumbsup:
How long have you been going to the gym?
only 1 year.Why?
Pure curiosity, honestly. :cheers:
thats nice :thumbsup:
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
What do you mean?
I mean races...1500 metres, 800 metres, etc...
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I drink superjuice
I drink megajuice
I think you might have misinterpreted my post. I wasn't be sarcastic by saying superjuice. Mona-vie is a juice that has over 19 fruits blended together. The Acai berry which is known to be a superfood, beneficial in numerous ways, is in the juice. The juice can help people with joint problems, blood pressure etc. The juice is strong enough that it is recommended that people only drink an ounce a day.
http://www.monavie.com
(http://www.cactuscanyon.com/monavie/monavie-3.jpg)
I kenew you were serious, I was joking...and that drink looks pretty good
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
What do you mean?
I mean races...1500 metres, 800 metres, etc...
I run 2000 m. Trying to do it on 7 minutes. I might start practicing 5 km again but I dont know, maybe!
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
What do you mean?
I mean races...1500 metres, 800 metres, etc...
I run 2000 m. Trying to do it on 7 minutes. I might start practicing 5 km again but I dont know, maybe!
thats such a random distance...I run 3000 and am trying to get down to 10...I run 5+ k for training as well, and my distance for x-country is 7k
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Besides freestyle I go the gym 3 times a week and i run 3 times a week.
I don't eat any garbage :) atleast not the latest month *proud
do you run track?
What do you mean?
I mean races...1500 metres, 800 metres, etc...
I run 2000 m. Trying to do it on 7 minutes. I might start practicing 5 km again but I dont know, maybe!
thats such a random distance...I run 3000 and am trying to get down to 10...I run 5+ k for training as well, and my distance for x-country is 7k
For a second I thought you said you were trying to get your 5 km time down to 10 minutes.. Haha :stupid:
10 minuts on 3000 meters is pretty good. Good luck with that!
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3 times a week 30 min :3some:
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mostly never work out
i eat whatever i want whenever.....
i use to practice 2 hours everyday freestyle
but now
2 hours a day of skate n tats it
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Right now im on a chicken diet
Basically just eat as much chicken as possible including other food
Yesterday i ate a whole chicken
I do weights every 2nd day
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I just bought these badboys, as you can see in my freestyle videos i am very skinny and i feel like i am growing up but not growing out.
So when they arrive where do i start? Tips would be cool if any of you guys do weight training.
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductLargeImagePopup?storeId=10001&jsparm=true&imageName=31-3028319A68UC412701X.jpg&imageText=
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Do you have a bench?
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no, i thought maybe it was a bit early for a bench? Those weights were 45 pound i was thinking about getting a bench but didnt want to spend all my money at once. But i am definetely going to get a bench in the future, hopefully in a few months i will have alot of equipment, bench is the next thing i am going to get.
Are those weights useless without a bench?
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No, of course not.
http://thetrainingstationinc.com/exercises.html
Go look through some weightlifting/strength training forums to get an idea for a training regimen.
If you're looking to put on some weight, you might want to look into something like this: http://www.cytosport.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=7 .
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wow thanks mate! plus karma to you, i am defo gonna try most of those workouts and will get a bench soon.
Do you do weight training yourself? and do you use that powder stuff? How well does it work?
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ont take anything like that. Build up naturally or dont build at all because it is unhealthy in the long term and throws off your natural body state.
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i am unsure about buying it, because it is expensive and dont know how long it will last.
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I suggest that you dont.
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ont take anything like that. Build up naturally or dont build at all because it is unhealthy in the long term and throws off your natural body state.
That's just whey protein with a shitload of carbohydrates. That's building naturally.
@ Mac. I don't really weight train. I just do body weight stuff.
Also, cytogainer was just a suggestion. If you're looking for something like that, search for similar things on the internet. You should be able to find something similar but cheaper. If you aren't in the market for something like that, just eat more.
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You're stupid if you purchase any form of powder believing it'll help you
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You're stupid if you purchase any form of powder believing it'll help you
I concur :cheers:
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You're stupid if you purchase any form of powder believing it'll help you
:rolleyes:
(http://www.cytosport.com/media/ProductSupplementalFactsImage/supp_cytogainer_van.jpg)
You probably shouldn't eat either, right?
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Oh please, let me inform you of the glory of cytogainer.
I started working out early last year with the hope of getting a bit bigger. After a few months or noticing that I was stronger, I hadn't gained any weight or put on any size. In January, I said to myself "Let me try some Cytogainer." So I tried Cytogainer and continued my workout routine. What happened? I went from weighing 145 pounds to weighing 173 pounds in a mere 3 months. As long as you keep your workout routine consistent, you will get stronger and put on the weight you desire. Also, I used Creatine and it pretty much "inflated" me. The only way Creatine will work is if you use it for about a year on and off. If you just use it for 3 months like I did, you will quickly lose what you gained from it. But it still works (to help you look bigger. not to get you stronger.)
(http://megafitzone.com/images/cytogainer6vanilla.JPG)
Read the label. 3 shakes a day and this six pound container will last you about 2 weeks. It's rather expensive, at $40-50 a container, but that's probably because it works. Each shake has 54 grams of protein. If you are looking to gain weight, you should consume about your weight in grams of protein per day (weight 120 pounds? Get about 125 grams of protein in you per day). Remember though, that high protien diets can be dangerous, so never over-do the shakes. If you weigh 150, don't go around consuming 200 grams of protein daily. It is tough to manage, but diet is much more essential than the weights you can pick up when it comes to getting the body you want.
And yes, as mentioned, it is pretty much just whey protein. If you feel uncomfortable drinking a protein shake, then you can obviously get your protein in you by simply eating. But some people would rather not stuff thier face with turkey, chicken, and tuna 10 times a day in order to get the amount of protein necessary. Suggested times to take the supplement (this is how I did it):
Morning (usually around 9 AM) - Breakfast: Eggs, Ham, 2 glasses of milk, biscuits, oatmeal.
Shake number 1 (usually around 11:30 AM)
After Noon - Lunch (usually around 1:30 PM): Quizno's sandwhich, or any sort of sandwhich. Just stay away from McDonalds.
Workout - (Usually around 4 pm - 6 pm)
Shake number 2 (immediatly after workout -- the most important one)
Dinner (7:30 pm) - again this varies. salads, fruits, meat, milk, and potatoes
Final shake number 3 (right before bedtime, and right after doing a routine of pushups and situps). This is another important shake.
Of course it varies day to day because of class, work, etc. But generally it went something like that. If you are against supplements, try spacing out 6 small but protien rich meals per day. It is probably harder and in the long run more expensive if you choose to buy decent food.
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If you work out 7 times or more a week then it's a good idea.
OrangeCounty guy you misunderstood me obviously
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If you work out 7 times or more a week then it's a good idea.
It's always a good idea post workout.
misunderstood me obviously
Maybe, but you weren't too terribly clear.
@ Mac: See Elite's post.
Back on track...
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Thanks for the help fellas, especially elite. I didnt think i would have to be commited, i dont think i will buy the shake just because of how expensive it is, although i would like it. I think i am going to have to get my mum to buy different things in the supermarket lol. My weights arrive tomorow so i will let you know how it goes over the next few months. Thanks again for the help.
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Average Joe shouldn't consider any powder nutrition. As I said if you're going to work out once a day every day or more then it's a great option. But not many have the motivation, determination and time for this.
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As I said if you're going to work out once a day every day or more
I wouldn't go that far, but if you aren't looking at a regimented training plan, I wouldn't consider it.
Since your mother is cooking for you, I wouldn't worry about it.
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You're stupid if you purchase any form of powder believing it'll help you
How could the above have been understood as the below? :dontknow:
If you work out 7 times or more a week then it's a good idea.
I've been working out for a while now, but I only do it 2-3 times a week. Is the powder nutrition still a good idéa or do I have to, as Oli says, train more times a week to get any results?
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"Powder" nutrition is always a good idea post workout. Or, as mentioned, go and eat 3 or 4 cans of tuna. Whatever you feel more comfortable doing.
Working out 7 days a week is a bad idea. You'll hurt yourself if you aren't careful. I came down with wrist splints, as i call them, because of improper technique and intense working out for 6 days a week. I took a month off from the gym, but I'm back at it. Now i keep it around 5 days a week, and on the days off maintain a good cardio workout, though you should have cardio 5 times a week as well. One day of the week must be a rest day. The rest day is essential or you'll burn out quickly. Don't think usuing wrist guards or gloves are for pussies; for some reason a lot of people think this. They can really help your technique and prevent wrist injuries, as well as give you much better grip on weights.
Mike, it depends on what kind of results you want. Do you want to get "huge"? Or do you simply want to maintain your weight and muscle size? To get "huge", your workouts shouldnt last more than an hour of weights a day. Lift heavy, but if you are doing over 8 reps you aren't pushing your muscles to thier limits. Always stretch for 20 minutes before and after to prevent injury as well.
To maintain, make sure you are using light weights and doing plenty of repetitions. I'm sure most people arleady know this. But whatever you are trying to achieve, make sure you keep your diet right and full of protein. After working out is the key period, when your muscles are "thirsty."
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well i used to workout like 4-5 x a week and increased my benchpress max from 50kgs to 100kgs in 8 months.
about the creatine i'd recommend puryvate version rather than monohydrate cuz its like 5 times more effective :cheers:
You're stupid if you purchase any form of powder believing it'll help you
How could the above have been understood as the below? :dontknow:
If you work out 7 times or more a week then it's a good idea.
I've been working out for a while now, but I only do it 2-3 times a week. Is the powder nutrition still a good idéa or do I have to, as Oli says, train more times a week to get any results?
5 times a week is the ultimate maximum. remember train,eat,rest and u'll do good
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Did you benchpress 4-5 times a week or did you it once a week? How is/should a nice looking schedual be?
I'm having a hard time being able doing the gym 4-5 times a week. 2-3 is my max I can do.
I'll give the powder a try, seeing as big is what I want to get.
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I can only give a recommendation: try to do it naturally...its better for you in the long term
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When you say it like that it sounds as if you know something about the subject. Elite put out some own experience stuffs making him trustworthy. What do you have to back yourself up? Or is it just something you believe?
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the powder elite used is not good for your body, not because of the protein but because of the creatine. try taking only protein, but remember you dont have to take any protein shakes or something like that, water is enough
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creatine
Healthy if utilized correctly.
Water isn't always enough.
Mike, you may want to take your question to a weightlifting/strength training forum too.
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I will say once more that you should see to your longterm health and not do that shit
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Have you ever eaten fish? You've had creatine. I don't want to get rude but are you all stupid? You may not want to eat any food then, totalfootball10, because you might get obese. How do you not get obese? By controlling the way you eat. How do you properly intake protein, creatine, glutamine, etc.? By consuming the proper amount. Don't be so ignorant. I'm not sitting here talking about anabolic steroids. I'm talking about protien and creatine, supplements that your body need in order to maximize muscle building capacity. Don't be a fucking idiot. If you don't want to use protien powder because it will kill you, then you shouldn't eat peanut butter, tuna, turkey, sardines, milk, eggs, etc. They have protein in them and they might harm you :rolleyes:
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Power
Honestly I shouldn't talk about it that much because I myself don't know about it fully certainly, but, I've hade tips from experts who said it isn't the best idea unless you work out very seriously, eat correctly and keep up with that. So that you don't start with the powder then have a mood swing and quitting.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Power
Honestly I shouldn't talk about it that much because I myself don't know about it fully certainly, but, I've hade tips from experts who said it isn't the best idea unless you work out very seriously, eat correctly and keep up with that. So that you don't start with the powder then have a mood swing and quitting.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
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fuck that it'll kill eventually use coffein instead, 200mg is enaff
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Target different muscles for different days.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
No, they regulate the shit out of Pseudoephedrine and Ephedrine in the US. Have to deal with Phenylephrine whenever I'm congested. :bang:
As a stimulant, it's probably caffeine<ephedrine<amphetamines.
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My weights arrived and they are wicked, glad i bought, i really think i should get a bench soon though. What shall i eat after working out? Porridge, bagels, bread that kind of thing?
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Carbohydrates, Proteins
http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/bigpost.htm
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Power
Honestly I shouldn't talk about it that much because I myself don't know about it fully certainly, but, I've hade tips from experts who said it isn't the best idea unless you work out very seriously, eat correctly and keep up with that. So that you don't start with the powder then have a mood swing and quitting.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
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fuck that it'll kill eventually use coffein instead, 200mg is enaff
Caffein 200mg pills? I've been considering it but I can't decide.
Are the caffein pills legal for minors?
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Power
Honestly I shouldn't talk about it that much because I myself don't know about it fully certainly, but, I've hade tips from experts who said it isn't the best idea unless you work out very seriously, eat correctly and keep up with that. So that you don't start with the powder then have a mood swing and quitting.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
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fuck that it'll kill eventually use coffein instead, 200mg is enaff
Caffein 200mg pills? I've been considering it but I can't decide.
Are the caffein pills legal for minors?
If you're over 15 I think ..
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Did you benchpress 4-5 times a week or did you it once a week? How is/should a nice looking schedual be?
I'm having a hard time being able doing the gym 4-5 times a week. 2-3 is my max I can do.
I'll give the powder a try, seeing as big is what I want to get.
5 x a week benchpress. Whats your current max 1 rep?
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Mike let every muscle rest 48 hours before you work it out next time. It's about katabol and anabol faces which are both important for the muscles. The anabol face is when you work the muscle out and the katabol is when it rests, your muscle needs both to get stronger and the katabol face should be 48 hours clocking from the hour you stop working the muscle out. Also you might want to consider working out more than your upper body because you generate muscle cells when you work out all parts and that doesn't only help the parts that are worked out but the whole body.
Power
Honestly I shouldn't talk about it that much because I myself don't know about it fully certainly, but, I've hade tips from experts who said it isn't the best idea unless you work out very seriously, eat correctly and keep up with that. So that you don't start with the powder then have a mood swing and quitting.
Effedrin
Has anyone tried it?
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fuck that it'll kill eventually use coffein instead, 200mg is enaff
Caffein 200mg pills? I've been considering it but I can't decide.
Are the caffein pills legal for minors?
If you're over 15 I think ..
yep its legal age doesnt matter
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Aight thanks.
Will purchase in near time
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I was wrong about the age u must be over 18 if not it can be dangerous.
sömnproblem,rastlöshet,irritabilitet,ökad puls,hjärtklappning etc., överdriv därför inte dosen
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I was wrong about the age u must be over 18 if not it can be dangerous.
sömnproblem,rastlöshet,irritabilitet,ökad puls,hjärtklappning etc., överdriv därför inte dosen
The side-effects are obvious. I'm well aware of the effects of caffein. Thanks still.
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Have you ever eaten fish? You've had creatine. I don't want to get rude but are you all stupid? You may not want to eat any food then, totalfootball10, because you might get obese. How do you not get obese? By controlling the way you eat. How do you properly intake protein, creatine, glutamine, etc.? By consuming the proper amount. Don't be so ignorant. I'm not sitting here talking about anabolic steroids. I'm talking about protien and creatine, supplements that your body need in order to maximize muscle building capacity. Don't be a fucking idiot. If you don't want to use protien powder because it will kill you, then you shouldn't eat peanut butter, tuna, turkey, sardines, milk, eggs, etc. They have protein in them and they might harm you :rolleyes:
by taking such things, you are often consuming MORE than the normal daily amount, otherwise they wouldn't be selling it as something that will make you bigger. ELITE think before you post.
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Have you ever eaten fish?
Any vertebrate.
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Have you ever eaten fish? You've had creatine. I don't want to get rude but are you all stupid? You may not want to eat any food then, totalfootball10, because you might get obese. How do you not get obese? By controlling the way you eat. How do you properly intake protein, creatine, glutamine, etc.? By consuming the proper amount. Don't be so ignorant. I'm not sitting here talking about anabolic steroids. I'm talking about protien and creatine, supplements that your body need in order to maximize muscle building capacity. Don't be a fucking idiot. If you don't want to use protien powder because it will kill you, then you shouldn't eat peanut butter, tuna, turkey, sardines, milk, eggs, etc. They have protein in them and they might harm you :rolleyes:
by taking such things, you are often consuming MORE than the normal daily amount, otherwise they wouldn't be selling it as something that will make you bigger. ELITE think before you post.
Alright. You asked for it:
Consuming supplements is something you do coupled with a good diet and daily exercise. I don't know how many times I will have to stress to you that these supplements are only simpler and more convinient ways of getting in extra nutrients that will help your body grow. Yes, it is more than the "daily amount". I will say again, for I think the third time, that unless you are willing to stuff your body with an extra amount of food, you may as well take the supplement. It is the exact same thing, except you get only what you want with supplements. You don't have to deal with the extra sugars and carbs that will come with other foods. Obviously you are just a skinny little 15 year old. I know how you feel; i've been there. I now know a little something about ways to increase muscle mass and size. I have increased my size over the past few months with a well balanced diet and plenty of protien. The average person eats 2,000 calories a day (supposedly). That's the "normal" diet that you're speaking of. And I'll bet a lot of money that you do not count calories in order to maintain healthy. In order to grow muscle wise you must count calories. This is why it isn't unhealthy. Maintaining the right amount of everything is the key.
I don't see where your argument is coming from. If you want to get bigger, go eat McDonalds every day for a year and you'll get huge. But if you want to be healthy and gain size then make sure you get what you want in your body. Whether you have the money to buy tons of food or containers of powder. It's equally effective. You sound like you just like being ignorant.
Cytogainer by itself will not get you bigger. You must excersize properly and eat properly in order to see results. Have you ever eaten ceral or slim fast bars? Same thing. You get your calories and nutrients from a bar, just as you get your protein and creatine from a powder.
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Going for a run today, wihoo! :)
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the best exercise is this:
(http://thelastman.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/shovel.jpg)
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I think buying these weights is one of the best things i have done in a long while, i think in a few months time i will start to buy that weight gain powder stuff.
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I think buying these weights is one of the best things i have done in a long while, i think in a few months time i will start to buy that weight gain powder stuff.
What muscles do you work out?
When?
What exercises?
What do you eat and when?
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jesus oLi lots of questions lol
I work out all of my arm muscles, shoulders and back because i want a bigger frame.
I workout every couple of days for about an hour and a half.
After working out i have bagels, porridge and milk.
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Consider meat or fish
Remember to give every muscle 48h rest
How many reps do you do?
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48 hours rest is the extreme.
If you're working out frequently, consider some kind of split, e.g. 1st day one muscle group, 2nd day another muscle group, 3rd day another muscle group, 4th day rest all, and repeat.
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According to studdies 48 hour is the optimal rest the muscle should have to grow as much as possible
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According to studdies 48 hour is the optimal rest the muscle should have to grow as much as possible
Rest for optimal growth is longer (supposedly), but I misread that series of posts. :thumbsup:
@Mac: Are you considering working out your legs? or are you going to leave that to freestyle?
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
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According to studdies 48 hour is the optimal rest the muscle should have to grow as much as possible
Rest for optimal growth is longer (supposedly), but I misread that series of posts. :thumbsup:
Could you link me to a studdy of some form showing you're correct?
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Work each major bodypart once every 2-7 days. The exact frequency will be determined by factors such as rep range, intensity and exercise selection. These factors, in turn, are influenced by bone-structure and nervous system recovery ability.
http://www.weightrainer.net/training/frequency.html
That's the figure I've seen quoted. I'll look for a study later.
Looking into it, protein synthesis does stop at 48 hours. The figure I had seen quoted factors in CNS, etc. recovery. You were right. I was wrong. :dontknow:
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Big respect for admitting your mistake, takes a real man for that.
Anyway, how is your work out going?
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
typical mistake. huge upper body and skinny legs does it look good?
also strong legs makes u better at fs
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
typical mistake. huge upper body and skinny legs does it look good?
also strong legs makes u better at fs
It looks funny. But leg work out is boring. I get it from running instead, fat burn and leg work out all in one, couldn't get any better =)
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A big upper body and a really skinny lower body looks really ugly.
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A big upper body and a really skinny lower body looks really ugly.
Thing is you don't even gotta work out your legs that much too keep them in somewhat ok size to match your body
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
typical mistake. huge upper body and skinny legs does it look good?
also strong legs makes u better at fs
no, when i meant enough workout i didnt mean my legs are getting huge because they are not. I meant that if i went and freestyled then came in and worked out then i would be constantly tired all the time.
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
typical mistake. huge upper body and skinny legs does it look good?
also strong legs makes u better at fs
no, when i meant enough workout i didnt mean my legs are getting huge because they are not. I meant that if i went and freestyled then came in and worked out then i would be constantly tired all the time.
Yeeh, would probably be to much even though I think that freestyle don't make you feel especially tired .
One alternative could be to work on your legs maybe 2-3 times a week and then rest the next day if you don't wanna be tired for to long ..
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Squats and leg presses every few days should be enough.
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i have worked out my legs a little, but i think freestyling gives my legs enough work out. I do workout with my legs with the barbell but not as much as my upper body.
typical mistake. huge upper body and skinny legs does it look good?
also strong legs makes u better at fs
no, when i meant enough workout i didnt mean my legs are getting huge because they are not. I meant that if i went and freestyled then came in and worked out then i would be constantly tired all the time.
Yeeh, would probably be to much even though I think that freestyle don't make you feel especially tired .
One alternative could be to work on your legs maybe 2-3 times a week and then rest the next day if you don't wanna be tired for to long ..
If lowerbody freestyling doesn't make your legs tired then you're doing it wrong. I'm the power polak and even I can get tired. You will get tired you just have to do it the right way :biggrin:
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maybe johanrempe is just a beast. He'll show you up oLi...are you gonna take that kind of talk from him, or am I just playing mindgames with you all? :biggrin:
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A big upper body and a really skinny lower body looks really ugly.
Thing is you don't even gotta work out your legs that much too keep them in somewhat ok size to match your body
It depends how big your upper body is. Some people are gym freaks and have heaps bigger bodies. Working your legs is a must if you want to bulk up your body.
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Run today, 6-7 or so :3some:
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Run today, 6-7 or so :3some:
yeeeaaah...I do a 5k run every other day now...and I have 2-3 soccer practices a week. The season is starting soon.
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maybe johanrempe is just a beast. He'll show you up oLi...are you gonna take that kind of talk from him, or am I just playing mindgames with you all? :biggrin:
I am a beast ! :pimp: , to be honest I just take a small break when ever I feel tired and when I'm done It's just time for some more !!
Btw I run 6 km yesterday, that made me feel tired ! :biggrin:
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Conner, any conditioning training drills? Remember I said that I eat pizza often now because it's the only thing near school, and that I said it doesn't really affect me.. well I think it's affecting me. I use to be able to run countless laps and not get tired, but now I'm not myself anymore. Maybe it's because I haven't run in a while, but still.
Any drills for me? :biggrin:
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maybe johanrempe is just a beast. He'll show you up oLi...are you gonna take that kind of talk from him, or am I just playing mindgames with you all? :biggrin:
I am a beast ! :pimp: , to be honest I just take a small break when ever I feel tired and when I'm done It's just time for some more !!
Btw I run 6 km yesterday, that made me feel tired ! :biggrin:
I did an epic 10 km run in September. I couldn't walk afterwards.
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maybe johanrempe is just a beast. He'll show you up oLi...are you gonna take that kind of talk from him, or am I just playing mindgames with you all? :biggrin:
I am a beast ! :pimp: , to be honest I just take a small break when ever I feel tired and when I'm done It's just time for some more !!
Btw I run 6 km yesterday, that made me feel tired ! :biggrin:
I did an epic 10 km run in September. I couldn't walk afterwards.
I also ran about 10 km a few years ago when I was about 11, was so tired that I didn't went to school the other day, I was felt "sick" .
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Conner, any conditioning training drills? Remember I said that I eat pizza often now because it's the only thing near school, and that I said it doesn't really affect me.. well I think it's affecting me. I use to be able to run countless laps and not get tired, but now I'm not myself anymore. Maybe it's because I haven't run in a while, but still.
Any drills for me? :biggrin:
I have some fun shit (not really), but let me get to you Saturday. I have to learn some shit (and I'm drunk right now).
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Conner, any conditioning training drills? Remember I said that I eat pizza often now because it's the only thing near school, and that I said it doesn't really affect me.. well I think it's affecting me. I use to be able to run countless laps and not get tired, but now I'm not myself anymore. Maybe it's because I haven't run in a while, but still.
Any drills for me? :biggrin:
I have some fun shit (not really), but let me get to you Saturday. I have to learn some shit (and I'm drunk right now).
so much for the healthy lifestyle thread :cheers:
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Conner, any conditioning training drills? Remember I said that I eat pizza often now because it's the only thing near school, and that I said it doesn't really affect me.. well I think it's affecting me. I use to be able to run countless laps and not get tired, but now I'm not myself anymore. Maybe it's because I haven't run in a while, but still.
Any drills for me? :biggrin:
I have some fun shit (not really), but let me get to you Saturday. I have to learn some shit (and I'm drunk right now).
Hahaha, classic shit. :cheers:
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mac: there is not anything wrong with a few, or ten, drinks. :cheers:
borg: these are three very basic exercises that i did not hate.
1st. the exercise is continuous-sprint to the six. sprint back to the endline. sprint to the 18. sprint back to the endline. jog to the other endline. sprint there. jog back. repeat.
2nd: run from one endline to the other. jog back. pick an interval to do the exercise on. 2/3s of the exercise should be done jogging. the other 1/3 should be done running e.g. for a one minute interval: 20 seconds there, 40 back.
3rd: there are many variations of this exercise that all follow a basic formula: agility, plyometric, etc. drill; a sprint; a jog. the simplest that i have done: five cones set up in an l shape.
cone
5 yards
cone 10 yards cone 10 yards cone 10 yards cone
start at the purple cone. sprint backward to the black cone. immediately sprint forward to the purple cone. cut at the purple cone and sprint to the blue cone. jog back to the purple cone. repeat to the green cone, then the red cone.
if i was to do this exercise. i'd probably do x sets of 9. each set would be 3x blue. 3x green. 3x red.
if you like to run, i'd probably just do some middle-distance stuff mixed with some sprinting, but i don't like to run.
on another note: i've started working out with weights (i was just doing pushups at school). i've never worked out seriously, but it will give me something to do over the summer. i'll use this thread to talk about my progress (i'll post my starting point in a few weeks when i get used to working out with a bar).
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ok I'll go through my ideal routine (if only there were time):
1: a 3-5 k run done in 10-18 minutes, depending on the distance
2: jog 3/4 of a 400 metre lap, then sprint the last 100 metres. Repeat 4-6 times.
3: 25-30 hills -- sprint up, jog down
4: either a karate workout (GREAT for agility) or a cone relay thing like as;kjk;f was talking about
5: go home:
a) 60 pushups (1st set)
b) 200 situps
c) 60 pushups (2nd set)
d) 40 leg-raises
d) 40 pushups (last set)
6: eat a good meal
7: (if you have no soccer or other sport/activity that day) soccer training
a) juggle
b) do give-and-go drills with a friend or my brother
c) play a scrimmage with whoever I can find
d) make a box of cones 1.5 metres by 1.5 metres and place it just outside the 6 yards box. Cross balls into it and do not stop until you have landed a ball into it 3-5 time in a row.
e) freestyle
I did this sometimes last summer...those were awesome days :cheers:
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Double karma for you Conner, I love the L shape one, I can try it in my backyard. :biggrin:
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well my diet consists of one fruit a month(altho wen school started im now eating 2 fruits a day YUSSSS) and probabli about 3 fast foods a week, but if im not eating fast food i eat sandwhichs cuz they soo good!
my excercise consists of freestyle, probabli 30 mins a day.
so yea u cud say im a super healthy man that does way to much excercise but lets not brag to much :thumbsup:
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well my diet consists of one fruit a month(altho wen school started im now eating 2 fruits a day YUSSSS) and probabli about 3 fast foods a week, but if im not eating fast food i eat sandwhichs cuz they soo good!
I wouldn't call that a diet
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Finally my Whey 80 coconut taste arrived
(http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/5045/yesll4.jpg)
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I hope it works out.
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I hope it works out.
Tastes like heaven :3some:
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like coconut heaven?
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last time i checked heaven tasted like the cunt of a camel well thats what the zoo keeper told me. :down:
ive been eating more healthy recently too :rockit: no more white bread, late night snacking, fizzy drinks, and more excerise like weights press ups and sit ups. now to get off my anus and start going jogging again.
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What's so bad about white bread? :down:
last time i checked heaven tasted like the cunt of a camel well thats what the zoo keeper told me. :down:
ive been eating more healthy recently too :rockit: no more white bread, late night snacking, fizzy drinks, and more excerise like weights press ups and sit ups. now to get off my anus and start going jogging again.
I just had a hot dog on a white bun with 7-Up.
:down:
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What's so bad about white bread? :down:
last time i checked heaven tasted like the cunt of a camel well thats what the zoo keeper told me. :down:
ive been eating more healthy recently too :rockit: no more white bread, late night snacking, fizzy drinks, and more excerise like weights press ups and sit ups. now to get off my anus and start going jogging again.
I just had a hot dog on a white bun with 7-Up.
:down:
white bread contains less healthy stuff than multi grain. It is not unhealthy per se, but multi grain is better.
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"Less healthy stuff"
Please explain your statement
Basicly about the white bread is that it's much calories for little nutrition. Dark bread is a better choice but the best choice is no bread at all. There are many better options.
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I see.
I have started to run again and feel much faster. :rockit:
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oLi you said wht I was too lazt to say :thumbsup:
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Today I ate like a beast after a sick work out...
2 of my friends were at the gym so I had someone assisting me when I worked out shoulders which was really great. Those last 3 lifts which feel so unbelievably heavy give so much since the only reason I did them was cause I knew that incase I couldn't lift my friend was behind me to help.
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Yeah, always have a "spotter" helping you. They can help you keep the form right and help you towards the end when you get tired.
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yeah people have dies because the benchpress bar chokes them and they didnt have spotters
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Yeah, always have a "spotter" helping you. They can help you keep the form right and help you towards the end when you get tired.
Unfortunately I don't have a friend with me each time but whenever I do I always feel that it goes so much better. Fuck my lazy bastard friends...... :cursing:
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just call them fat a lot and lower their self seteem so they'll want to work out :thumbsup:
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"Less healthy stuff"
Please explain your statement
Basicly about the white bread is that it's much calories for little nutrition. Dark bread is a better choice but the best choice is no bread at all. There are many better options.
Wrong. Dark bread contains loads of fibre which is the most main things to keep your alimentary working(especially when enjoying recovery drinks/protein).
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"Less healthy stuff"
Please explain your statement
Basicly about the white bread is that it's much calories for little nutrition. Dark bread is a better choice but the best choice is no bread at all. There are many better options.
Wrong. Dark bread contains loads of fibre which is the most main things to keep your alimentary working(especially when enjoying recovery drinks/protein).
As if fibres don't come better in fiber oat meel?
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except bread tastes better...enjoy life and work out, dont let everything be centered around your diet. Eat food that is healthy and tastes good.
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What's so bad about white bread? :down:
last time i checked heaven tasted like the cunt of a camel well thats what the zoo keeper told me. :down:
ive been eating more healthy recently too :rockit: no more white bread, late night snacking, fizzy drinks, and more excerise like weights press ups and sit ups. now to get off my anus and start going jogging again.
I just had a hot dog on a white bun with 7-Up.
:down:
white bread contains less healthy stuff than multi grain. It is not unhealthy per se, but multi grain is better.
Multi grain bread is better because it has slow releasing carbohydrates so you are energised longer instead of quick release energy white bread gives. This is my first post haha weird i thought it would be one on freestyle
Haha. Welcome to the site Jordan.
Well lately I've been working out like this
Monday; Shoulders, Upper back, Triceps
Tuesday; Biceps, Chest, Stomach
and then it goes on like that and I rest on sundays. Working out REALLY great. Only after 1 week with this system I notice I've became much stronger.
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Don't forget legs, you don't want to be bulked over.
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Don't forget legs, you don't want to be bulked over.
And ruin my freestyle? No thanks
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whats your bench 1rep max?
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Monday; Shoulders, Upper back, Triceps
Tuesday; Biceps, Chest, Stomach
monday/thurs: shoulders,chest,triceps bcuz u do similar exercises for all them and also u'll recover faster when giving a break for those muscles on tu/fri.. tu/fri;
back,biceps,abs,forearms.
See pull and push?
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I don't get it Rude
I don't work out for strenght causes
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water red bull , freestyle sleep
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I don't get it Rude
I don't work out for strenght causes
Oh so do you do the exercises for muscle endurance? I do that as you dont require weights for it just like body exercises, muscle endurance is better for freestyle too
I workout for muscle volume
8-10 reps 3 sets
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Up :thumbsup:
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Well I made the All-Star team for soccer, and we had a 2 hour practice today.
We were running for an 1 hour straight and did ab crunches and pushups, felt good. :bowdown:
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Well I made the All-Star team for soccer, and we had a 2 hour practice today.
We were running for an 1 hour straight and did ab crunches and pushups, felt good. :bowdown:
Nice Borg
Today I did my regular Chest - Abs - Bicep workout nr2
My biceps fealt weak today. Hopefully I won't experience that next time.
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Was it a long time since you last worked out?
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Was it a long time since you last worked out?
6 times a week rest only Sundays very strict rarely miss a work out and if I do I don't rest on the Sunday.
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Lol that's weird then. ;)
Maybe you were lifting more than usual? I don't know, maybe pulled something? lol
I've been trying to work up my groin and hip flexors, they hurt after soccer..
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Lol that's weird then. ;)
Maybe you were lifting more than usual? I don't know, maybe pulled something? lol
I've been trying to work up my groin and hip flexors, they hurt after soccer..
Work out your back - you'll notice much more strenght when you tackle.
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Flutter kicks and leg lift sit ups work the shit out of hip flexors. And if it hurts you may want to check it out. I've had similar pain, turned out I had a partial hernia.
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Thanks, what do you mean by leg lift sit ups? :dontknow:
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he means leg raises I think
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Thanks, what do you mean by leg lift sit ups? :dontknow:
You're in a sit up position with your legs completely touching the ground and while you begin the sit up you lift your legs aswell
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No that's not what I meant by leg lifts.
Lie down on your back with your legs fully extended. Lift your legs using your hips and abs until your body forms a 90 degree angle. Your back remains grounded. Slowly bring your legs back down about 3-6 inches away from the ground. Do not touch the ground with your heels after you've begun. Do it until you cannot continute.
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No that's not what I meant by leg lifts.
Lie down on your back with your legs fully extended. Lift your legs using your hips and abs until your body forms a 90 degree angle. Your back remains grounded. Slowly bring your legs back down about 3-6 inches away from the ground. Do not touch the ground with your heels after you've begun. Do it until you cannot continute.
That excercise is great. I do it on this bench which allows my legs do go further down.
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Yes but to keep your hipflexors working, you wouldn't want to let have your legs go further down. It works best to keep them compact and pressured by not going back to the ground or lower
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No that's not what I meant by leg lifts.
Lie down on your back with your legs fully extended. Lift your legs using your hips and abs until your body forms a 90 degree angle. Your back remains grounded. Slowly bring your legs back down about 3-6 inches away from the ground. Do not touch the ground with your heels after you've begun. Do it until you cannot continute.
yeah thats what I meant by leg raises. I heard that it is better to do them with less distance...as in dont bring them up so far and use only stomach muscles, no hips.
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Thanks, I'll try it, although I can't make a 90 degree angle with my feet. :down:
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Personal best in bench today; 62,5 kg. Although I don't train bench for 1max rep I'm still pretty satisfied with the result ^^
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
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I'd go for bulk but it's not needed in the type of sports I do. I don't want to look too big, just defined. :biggrin:
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
yep it is the best way, because the food you have help grows your muscles, although you want be able to see your muscles that much because of extra fat. Then when you have your muscles you tone up and look buff. :pimp:
I dont do this though, i just eat any old crap tbh. I cant afford to spend so much on food etc.
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Personal best in bench today; 62,5 kg. Although I don't train bench for 1max rep I'm still pretty satisfied with the result ^^
D'oh, my best is 55kg :( Your weight and height ?
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Personal best in bench today; 62,5 kg. Although I don't train bench for 1max rep I'm still pretty satisfied with the result ^^
D'oh, my best is 55kg :( Your weight and height ?
Height 178 cm weight unkown. I can weigh myself tomorrow morning.
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
so you mean you eat a lot, train and have a filled stomach with sleeping, and after some months you are eating less, train more so you burn everything and sleep with a half-filled stomach or something like that. might help oli i'll eat as much as i can now and start training :biggrin: just kidding but i think i'm gonna do some excersizes every 2 days or something (your 48 hour tip ;))
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
so you mean you eat a lot, train and have a filled stomach with sleeping, and after some months you are eating less, train more so you burn everything and sleep with a half-filled stomach or something like that. might help oli i'll eat as much as i can now and start training :biggrin: just kidding but i think i'm gonna do some excersizes every 2 days or something (your 48 hour tip ;))
I don't have to eat alot it's quality not quantity. Aslong as my daily protein intake is atleast 2x of my weight (it's more I'm sure) and I eat more calories then I burn I should have no problems gaining muscles which I have noticed eg increasing weight for all excersizes. But after the bulk when I go into the deff I wont be starving. There's certain food which makes you feel full and supplementary which'll help so I wont go hungry. While deffing I'll prolly have a schedule eg gym 2 or 4 times a week and running 2 or 4 times a week. Going to the gym while deffing is only to not lose the muscles I've gained while being on the calorie minus
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
so you mean you eat a lot, train and have a filled stomach with sleeping, and after some months you are eating less, train more so you burn everything and sleep with a half-filled stomach or something like that. might help oli i'll eat as much as i can now and start training :biggrin: just kidding but i think i'm gonna do some excersizes every 2 days or something (your 48 hour tip ;))
I don't have to eat alot it's quality not quantity. Aslong as my daily protein intake is atleast 2x of my weight (it's more I'm sure) and I eat more calories then I burn I should have no problems gaining muscles which I have noticed eg increasing weight for all excersizes. But after the bulk when I go into the deff I wont be starving. There's certain food which makes you feel full and supplementary which'll help so I wont go hungry. While deffing I'll prolly have a schedule eg gym 2 or 4 times a week and running 2 or 4 times a week. Going to the gym while deffing is only to not lose the muscles I've gained while being on the calorie minus
aight sounds cool, you're gonna be our freestyling bodybuilder :biggrin: just kidding, but i have big respect for everybody who trains so much and takes so good care of their body. not that i'm wasting it, but i'm not as serious busy as some of you
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wtf :saywhat: as i read how much excersize some of you guys do, that makes me scared. and still you are no arnold swarzeneggers? i only run as a special excersize besides football and freestyle. and do you guys never eat crisps or cookies in your spare time? it sounds like you are kinda dietfreaks or is it just me? anyway respect for everybody that manages to train so much. i think i'll start doing that list that TF10 mentioned some pages ago
Currently I'm in a period called "bulk" which basicly means you eat more calories than you burn and this allows you to build muscles.
In a couple of months I'll go into "deff" which is burn more calories than you eat and it allows you to lose weight.
Going bulk > deff has in most cases shown to be the best way to gain visible muscles
so you mean you eat a lot, train and have a filled stomach with sleeping, and after some months you are eating less, train more so you burn everything and sleep with a half-filled stomach or something like that. might help oli i'll eat as much as i can now and start training :biggrin: just kidding but i think i'm gonna do some excersizes every 2 days or something (your 48 hour tip ;))
I don't have to eat alot it's quality not quantity. Aslong as my daily protein intake is atleast 2x of my weight (it's more I'm sure) and I eat more calories then I burn I should have no problems gaining muscles which I have noticed eg increasing weight for all excersizes. But after the bulk when I go into the deff I wont be starving. There's certain food which makes you feel full and supplementary which'll help so I wont go hungry. While deffing I'll prolly have a schedule eg gym 2 or 4 times a week and running 2 or 4 times a week. Going to the gym while deffing is only to not lose the muscles I've gained while being on the calorie minus
aight sounds cool, you're gonna be our freestyling bodybuilder :biggrin: just kidding, but i have big respect for everybody who trains so much and takes so good care of their body. not that i'm wasting it, but i'm not as serious busy as some of you
yeah it requires motivation and time i hope i can keep going till i reach good physique=)
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Personal best in bench today; 62,5 kg. Although I don't train bench for 1max rep I'm still pretty satisfied with the result ^^
D'oh, my best is 55kg :( Your weight and height ?
so height 178 cm
weight 72 kg
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woah oLi im gettin scared of you, i didnt know u are a strong bastard.! :bowdown:
i will never publicly insult you again ever i dont want my ass kicked
what kinda foods do you eat? Pasta and shit?
172 cm? im taller than you :booty:
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woah oLi im gettin scared of you, i didnt know u are a strong bastard.! :bowdown:
i will never publicly insult you again ever i dont want my ass kicked
what kinda foods do you eat? Pasta and shit?
172 cm? im taller than you :booty:
178 cm tall, 72 kg is my weight
I eat more or less anything actually + protein suppleament. I try to hold back on the crap stuff.
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fair play to you thats good dedication! :thumbsup:
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My bench press max is 220 pounds... whatever that is in kilos.
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should be very close to 100
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Yeah my bench max is 235 lbs.. which i think is around 107 kg..
i squat around 245 lbs.. like 111 kg
Unfortunately I dont get to freestyle as much I wish I could bc I always have to be in the weight room bc I play for my University..
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Looked in my workout diary and found something which inspired me
Benchpress
24th May ; 40kg, 4 times
5th July ; 50kg, 10 times
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well done oLi, i havent worked out in a while now. Been busy plus my room is a mess, need to get back into it.
oLi whats a training diary? tell me about it. Maybe i should get one of these thingys
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well done oLi, i havent worked out in a while now. Been busy plus my room is a mess, need to get back into it.
oLi whats a training diary? tell me about it. Maybe i should get one of these thingys
I just have this notebook in my room. At the last pages I've written for example "SH1" and an explenation to it like, "SH1 = Dumbell shoulder press". And I do this with all excersizes I find and then later on the day when I've done my workout I just write on the notepad what excersize I did and that's basicly it. Benchpress is the only excersize to where I document weight.
So in my notepad it might look like this
"July 5th
Bi2, Bi3, Bi7
B1
M1,M6"
The reason to why I write down what workout I've done is so that I can always check up if I'm unsure what excersize I did 3 days ago so that I don't repeat the same excersize to often. It helps me to variate more and it also gives me the feeling that I'm taking the workout more serious if I write down what excersize I have done and when I did them
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Am I the only one who wants to keep this thread alive? :cheers:
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guys I have a broken collarbone. Any excercises you all know that can help me stay in shape? (I lack full motion of my arm and am not allowed to run). Thanks
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Go on one of those electric bikes?
Have a seat and pedal! :biggrin:
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Go on one of those electric bikes?
Have a seat and pedal! :biggrin:
smart but a no-go...if I jerk my body around too much I'll have to havan operation :down:
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Ah that's tough then. I say wait it out, play it smart and just wait it out. Once you're recovered go into some physio and get your strength back.
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Ah that's tough then. I say wait it out, play it smart and just wait it out. Once you're recovered go into some physio and get your strength back.
I have a game just 3 days after I'm cleared to play :down:
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Bench PB; 70 kg :thumbsup:
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Bench PB; 70 kg :thumbsup:
thats great, mines 60 :down:
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2 days without going to the gym. Been at freestyle meetings which explains it.
Will be great to be back tomorrow. Time to bench 80.
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I haven't worked out in about a month. It's so easy to fall out of the routine but it can be so tough to get back into it. The same goes for losing muscle mass and gaining it. :down:
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Adi man, I'm going to be honest, you look like a deezed motherfucker man in your Vegas photos. :saywhat:
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Deezed? What's that? :dontknow:
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Very strong.
It looks like you workout a lot.
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You guys on MySpace or FaceBook?
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I only have Facebook. I use to have Myspace but I deleted it.
I saw his photos in the Member's Pictures thread.
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Oh, so it is. Well, thanks for the compliment. I've lost quite a bit of muscle mass though since I haven't been working out for about a month.
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You guys on MySpace or FaceBook?
how about you stay on topic
maybe i should delete your post (just a thought)
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I haven't worked out in about a month. It's so easy to fall out of the routine but it can be so tough to get back into it.
Indeed. Especially if you've had summer break and been working out every day and then all of a sudden have to go to school for 08:00 to 16:00
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I haven't worked out all summer, but I'm happy to go back to school because that's where I workout.
:thumbsup:
Peck Deck Forever. :bowdown:
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i finally got some whey protein today =)
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i finally got some whey protein today =)
you could eat a lot instead of drinking protein shakes.
i hate when i go to the gym and see how people do half the weight i do but they still have a better body. makes me wanna get some steroids
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once you get to a certain size, it's all about maintenance. putting any emphisis on how heavy your weights are isn't a good idea either. if you want to get big, build up your resistance first (do repititional workouts, pullups, and pushups). then you can proceed to maximize your weights. don't start off with heavy weights and expect to grow.
one of my favorite bruce lee quotes is "sure he is big, but how much power can he generate?"
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i finally got some whey protein today =)
you could eat a lot instead of drinking protein shakes.
i hate when i go to the gym and see how people do half the weight i do but they still have a better body. makes me wanna get some steroids
drinking shakes is easier, i dont have a huge stomach i find it hard to eat alot of food! Plus if i ate everything in the fridge everyone in my family would be pissed off with me.
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i finally got some whey protein today =)
you could eat a lot instead of drinking protein shakes.
i hate when i go to the gym and see how people do half the weight i do but they still have a better body. makes me wanna get some steroids
drinking shakes is easier, i dont have a huge stomach i find it hard to eat alot of food! Plus if i ate everything in the fridge everyone in my family would be pissed off with me.
yeah i hate that too. actually im thinking of buying mega mass (30%protein,50%carbohydrates i think) would help me get some weight
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I can say im a very healthy person....at times
In my diet i try and include only complex carbs, and whole meal fooods.
Foods high in carbs and high in protein for muscle development.
I drink heaps of water everydayy, i rarely drink anything else but water. As keeping hydrated is important, and water is also very necessary for the transportation of materials in our body. I try and stay away from drinks with caffiene such as coffee, tea, alcohol and energy drinks like redbull. As these items dehydrate the body, which definatly aiint good.
Along with a good diet, i participate in regular physical activity, such as basketball, and other forms of training; jumping exercises, and resistance training.
Also supplementation is really good. Not the vitamin supplements, as we get all our vitamins from the food we eat, any more we get from supplements will run outta our body, as we wont need it. But supplements such as weight gaining shakes, protein shakes, liquid meals etc are great. If youve missed a meal you can always have a shake, it is digested very easily, and most contain high amounts of what you want. In my case loads of carbs and protein.
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Nice Jono, I'm the same with eating complex carbohydrates (Balanced energy levels) and only drink water also. I don't use supplements like protein and vitamins as I can't afford them! But They can be good substitutes for real food like when theres no times to prepare it.
And I'm pretty sure soft drink (especially coke) is incredibly bad for you, if you tip a drop of coke on a surface and a drop of water on the same surface you can see what it does differently. Water settles better because its not full of carbonation and a whole lot of additives that just deteriorate your body. Of course moderation is the key here but I'm lucky enough to not enjoy soft drink anyway, it is overpoweringly sweet. This is a good thread
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Nice Jono, I'm the same with eating complex carbohydrates (Balanced energy levels) and only drink water also. I don't use supplements like protein and vitamins as I can't afford them! But They can be good substitutes for real food like when theres no times to prepare it.
And I'm pretty sure soft drink (especially coke) is incredibly bad for you, if you tip a drop of coke on a surface and a drop of water on the same surface you can see what it does differently. Water settles better because its not full of carbonation and a whole lot of additives that just deteriorate your body. Of course moderation is the key here but I'm lucky enough to not enjoy soft drink anyway, it is overpoweringly sweet. This is a good thread
Yeah i dont drink soft drink either
After seeing people with screwed up yellow teeth, i said to myself i dont wanna walk around with orange teeth, so i stopped drinking it. Water is a great substitute :cheers:
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I had a surgery and after it I had a lot of restrictions on my diet. A lot of things like soft drinks, sugary things had to be limited and after awhile I just got use to avoiding all the junk food/ fast food and soft drinks. Eventually I could go back to an unrestricted diet but didn't just cause it because I didn't see any reason in it.
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I had a surgery and after it I had a lot of restrictions on my diet. A lot of things like soft drinks, sugary things had to be limited and after awhile I just got use to avoiding all the junk food/ fast food and soft drinks. Eventually I could go back to an unrestricted diet but didn't just cause it because I didn't see any reason in it.
why did you have surgery for??
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I had a surgery and after it I had a lot of restrictions on my diet. A lot of things like soft drinks, sugary things had to be limited and after awhile I just got use to avoiding all the junk food/ fast food and soft drinks. Eventually I could go back to an unrestricted diet but didn't just cause it because I didn't see any reason in it.
why did you have surgery for??
I had total collectomy which is surgery for the colon, since its total I am pretty sure I have no colon anymore. It was for some Genetic Disease called FAP that becomes a malignant cancer in the the intestines and caused my dad to pass away at the age of 42. I got screened and had like 50 small polyps that were changing into larger things and were expected to become malignant sometime in the next 20 years. I took an operation, I would continue but I have to get to school for my law trip and don't want to be late.
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I had a surgery and after it I had a lot of restrictions on my diet. A lot of things like soft drinks, sugary things had to be limited and after awhile I just got use to avoiding all the junk food/ fast food and soft drinks. Eventually I could go back to an unrestricted diet but didn't just cause it because I didn't see any reason in it.
why did you have surgery for??
I had total collectomy which is surgery for the colon, since its total I am pretty sure I have no colon anymore. It was for some Genetic Disease called FAP that becomes a malignant cancer in the the intestines and caused my dad to pass away at the age of 42. I got screened and had like 50 small polyps that were changing into larger things and were expected to become malignant sometime in the next 20 years. I took an operation, I would continue but I have to get to school for my law trip and don't want to be late.
smart, and very good you caught it early
ive had surgery before aswell, but nother as serious as your case. Mine was for appendicidus, when my appendix was inflamed so they had to remove it before it broke and caused damage.
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
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i noticed no1 has posted any picks of their body (no homo :biggrin:)
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
Thats OTT for me, being fit, strong and healthy is good, but being like that is too much. There life becomes in the gym.
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
Thats OTT for me, being fit, strong and healthy is good, but being like that is too much. There life becomes in the gym.
Yeah its over the top for most people, but he is a bodybuilder and there is bigger guys than him. For bodybuilders its all about being big and having a lot of muscle and good physique thats how they get sponsorship and win competitions etc.
There is no way you can be like that and live an everyday life lol
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
Thats OTT for me, being fit, strong and healthy is good, but being like that is too much. There life becomes in the gym.
Whatever
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
Thats OTT for me, being fit, strong and healthy is good, but being like that is too much. There life becomes in the gym.
Whatever
Sorry if i've upset you, did i say something bad bout ur idol? lol
I was jus givin my opinion, if you wanna be like that then go ahead.
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Bodybuilders get a lot of negative comments from people, i think thats oLis problem here.
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A video of David Henry curling 120 pounds. Form could of course be better but that doesn't make the form bad. Oh and please note this is deffinately not how he usually works out.
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=5FgHowJTt9E
Thats OTT for me, being fit, strong and healthy is good, but being like that is too much. There life becomes in the gym.
Whatever
Sorry if i've upset you, did i say something bad bout ur idol? lol
I was jus givin my opinion, if you wanna be like that then go ahead.
Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
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i noticed no1 has posted any picks of their body (no homo :biggrin:)
so, is there an understood consensus that there would be absolutely no homo in posting pictures?
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i am just curious how people are getting on.
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I'll contribute with some tomorrow. Request certain poses/parts (no homo) now or be satisfied with what I have planned (back double bicep, most muscular, maybe abs and thigh )
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
How long is a string?
No he's not.
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
How long is a string?
No he's not.
You're gonna say its not easy then not tell my why.....? Doesnt really back up ur point
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
How long is a string?
No he's not.
You're gonna say its not easy then not tell my why.....? Doesnt really back up ur point
Dude just look into bodybuilding vids on youtube or read up on it, there is way too much to explain. You have to have a strict diet, eat like 8 meals a day, workout HARD!, take supplements, steriods, give up your social life etc etc.
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Dude just look into bodybuilding vids on youtube or read up on it, there is way too much to explain. You have to have a strict diet, eat like 8 meals a day, workout HARD!, take supplements, steriods, give up your social life etc etc.
lol ty mac, though i already know this. Still dont think its hard, or clever.
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Dude just look into bodybuilding vids on youtube or read up on it, there is way too much to explain. You have to have a strict diet, eat like 8 meals a day, workout HARD!, take supplements, steriods, give up your social life etc etc.
lol ty mac, though i already know this. Still dont think its hard, or clever.
you dont think that is hard? Go and film yourself deadlifting 800 pounds then come back and say that lol
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
How long is a string?
No he's not.
You're gonna say its not easy then not tell my why.....? Doesnt really back up ur point
This is a perfect example of tabula rasa. Why would I waste my time explaining to someone I don't even know about something he infacts doesn't even care about?
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you dont think that is hard? Go and film yourself deadlifting 800 pounds then come back and say that lol
I actually jus did that!
Progression wud be key. Some may say latw is easy, doesnt mean ppl can do it 1st go
This is a perfect example of tabula rasa. Why would I waste my time explaining to someone I don't even know about something he infacts doesn't even care about?
Meh fair enuff, but usually ppl do in discussions.
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TW89 there is no way you can say bodybuilding is easy, thats such a lose term. What is so easy about it?
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I'll contribute with some tomorrow. Request certain poses/parts (no homo) now or be satisfied with what I have planned (back double bicep, most muscular, maybe abs and thigh )
i probably will too..i don't have any before pictures, but i do have the "afters" of what was a heavy pullup and pushup routine for a few months.
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I'll contribute with some tomorrow. Request certain poses/parts (no homo) now or be satisfied with what I have planned (back double bicep, most muscular, maybe abs and thigh )
i probably will too..i don't have any before pictures, but i do have the "afters" of what was a heavy pullup and pushup routine for a few months.
what was your routine?
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I'll contribute with some tomorrow. Request certain poses/parts (no homo) now or be satisfied with what I have planned (back double bicep, most muscular, maybe abs and thigh )
i probably will too..i don't have any before pictures, but i do have the "afters" of what was a heavy pullup and pushup routine for a few months.
what was your routine?
i'll do my best do describe it..:
i did 3 sets of 3 different kinds of pullups to start with:
1. chinup grip (palms facing you). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible. do three sets.
10 military style pushups in between
2. regular grip (palms facing forward). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible.
10 military style pushups in between
3. stand directly under pullup bar, face one of the uprights. grip pullup bar (thumb to pinkey on other hand). pull up on right side, then on left side. that's 1. 8 total. 3 sets.
10 military style pushups.
now that's just the warm up for the push up routine:
10 military style pushups (2 sets)
10 regular style pushups (2 sets)
10 diamond with feet as close in as possible. nose toches the ground (you essentially make an arc) (2 sets)
10 wide grip, with fingers facing the outsides. wide as possible. hold 4 seconds down, 4 seconds up. (2 sets)
10 "all the way up" pushups. extend arms as far forward and close together as possible in diamond. hold 2 seconds up, 2 down (2 sets)
10 "snake" pushups. down with one arm, face other arm. roll chest close to ground but dont touch. repeat with other arm. that's 1. (2 sets)
10 "jaguar" pushups. start at an arcing position (ass up) with arms regular width. swoop down low but don't touch the ground and push up with your arms. then do the reverse. that's 1 (2 sets)
combined with running, a situp routine. been pretty effective for me. it took my bench press from 185 to around 225 in just a few months.
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I'll contribute with some tomorrow. Request certain poses/parts (no homo) now or be satisfied with what I have planned (back double bicep, most muscular, maybe abs and thigh )
i probably will too..i don't have any before pictures, but i do have the "afters" of what was a heavy pullup and pushup routine for a few months.
what was your routine?
i'll do my best do describe it..:
i did 3 sets of 3 different kinds of pullups to start with:
1. chinup grip (palms facing you). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible. do three sets.
10 military style pushups in between
2. regular grip (palms facing forward). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible.
10 military style pushups in between
3. stand directly under pullup bar, face one of the uprights. grip pullup bar (thumb to pinkey on other hand). pull up on right side, then on left side. that's 1. 8 total. 3 sets.
10 military style pushups.
now that's just the warm up for the push up routine:
10 military style pushups (2 sets)
10 regular style pushups (2 sets)
10 diamond with feet as close in as possible. nose toches the ground (you essentially make an arc) (2 sets)
10 wide grip, with fingers facing the outsides. wide as possible. hold 4 seconds down, 4 seconds up. (2 sets)
10 "all the way up" pushups. extend arms as far forward and close together as possible in diamond. hold 2 seconds up, 2 down (2 sets)
10 "snake" pushups. down with one arm, face other arm. roll chest close to ground but dont touch. repeat with other arm. that's 1. (2 sets)
10 "jaguar" pushups. start at an arcing position (ass up) with arms regular width. swoop down low but don't touch the ground and push up with your arms. then do the reverse. that's 1 (2 sets)
combined with running, a situp routine. been pretty effective for me. it took my bench press from 185 to around 225 in just a few months.
Haha 225? ma dude, you probably bench like 150 on a good day, you weigh like 150 when your wet and wearing boots. Skinny ass prick haha
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Go ahead? As if it's easy. You clearly prove your lack of knowledge in this subject.
Fyi David Henry isn't my idol, please don't ever again imply that I have a certain opinion for a certain person
How hard is it then??? These guys who are body builders are often the cleverest lads, so im sure its not too hard.
And jus wondering, is David Henry your idol?
How long is a string?
No he's not.
You're gonna say its not easy then not tell my why.....? Doesnt really back up ur point
Tw89 do you post just to piss others off? Users like you and another guy called tito piss me off with posts just urging arguments and stuff it just puts me off reading what would of been very interesting topics especially this one. I can see Olis frustration with you obviously trying to vent an arguement, just make more appropriate posts and stop, you brought the topic of subject right when it was getting interesting, I don't even know Oli but I can see how he took your blunder of posts that were appaling to read as insulting. Just stop trying to cause arguements PLEASE. peace man, and by the way Oli, do you lift regularly? If so how often?
Thanks for the support man. I see you're new also to the forum so welcome I really hope you stay, judging from your posts you seem like a good guy.
I work out at the gym 5-6 times a week. When I'm free from school it's 7 times a week.
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shit...dats alot.
i use 2 work on upper body since FS built my lower body. but now my parents stoped making/providing food 4 me and i dont have dat much cash 2 go out and get food evryday. so no food means no workout 4 me.
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shit...dats alot.
i use 2 work on upper body since FS built my lower body. but now my parents stoped making/providing food 4 me and i dont have dat much cash 2 go out and get food evryday. so no food means no workout 4 me.
Are you for real? Do you live with your parents and they refuse to pay your food? Do you have your own job or what caused them into taking that decision?
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TW89 there is no way you can say bodybuilding is easy, thats such a lose term. What is so easy about it?
Not thats its easy, jus it doesnt really require any skill, like anyone could do it, if they wanted to.
I suppose it comes down to what each individual defines as hard.
Tw89 do you post just to piss others off? Users like you and another guy called tito piss me off with posts just urging arguments and stuff it just puts me off reading what would of been very interesting topics especially this one. I can see Olis frustration with you obviously trying to vent an arguement, just make more appropriate posts and stop, you brought the topic of subject right when it was getting interesting, I don't even know Oli but I can see how he took your blunder of posts that were appaling to read as insulting. Just stop trying to cause arguements PLEASE. peace man, and by the way Oli, do you lift regularly? If so how often?
Don't understand what you're seeing in my posts tbh. And appalling??? Get outta here
I work out at the gym 5-6 times a week. When I'm free from school it's 7 times a week.
What sorta stuff you do aerobic, anaerobic, weights, etc. etc.?
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Doing something is easy. Doing something and doing it good and becoming one of the best at it isn't as easy.
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Lol TW i dont really think you know what you are talking about, saying anyone can do it is a load of shit. It takes a LOT of dedication, years of training. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia 8 years in a row because he was dedicated to it, proving that not 'anybody can do it'.
Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
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Lol TW i dont really think you know what you are talking about, saying anyone can do it is a load of shit. It takes a LOT of dedication, years of training. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia 8 years in a row because he was dedicated to it, proving that not 'anybody can do it'.
Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
Yeah it takes huge dedication, but if someone had this and was able to go to a gym regularly and (quickly) learnt the techniques, you saying this said person couldnt become the worlds best???
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Lol TW i dont really think you know what you are talking about, saying anyone can do it is a load of shit. It takes a LOT of dedication, years of training. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia 8 years in a row because he was dedicated to it, proving that not 'anybody can do it'.
Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
Yeah it takes huge dedication, but if someone had this and was able to go to a gym regularly and (quickly) learnt the techniques, you saying this said person couldnt become the worlds best???
no because there is a lot of bodybuilders across the world.
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Lol TW i dont really think you know what you are talking about, saying anyone can do it is a load of shit. It takes a LOT of dedication, years of training. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia 8 years in a row because he was dedicated to it, proving that not 'anybody can do it'.
Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
Yeah it takes huge dedication, but if someone had this and was able to go to a gym regularly and (quickly) learnt the techniques, you saying this said person couldnt become the worlds best???
God damn. Another members post which I'll start ignoring.
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no because there is a lot of bodybuilders across the world.
.....So, they obviously arent dedicated enough to becoming the best.
God damn. Another members post which I'll start ignoring.
And oli, if you really are gonna ignore my future posts just because you disagree with my opinion in this thread, then you truly are an idiot.
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this thread isnt about if bodybuilding is easy, its about everyones lifestyle. You are just annoying me and oLi with your pointless questions that a kid would ask.
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Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
yeah; i did it every other day
the first two times i vomited
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bodybuilders are only good at one thing, lifting weights,
----and taking steroids
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Lol TW i dont really think you know what you are talking about, saying anyone can do it is a load of shit. It takes a LOT of dedication, years of training. Ronnie Coleman won the Mr Olympia 8 years in a row because he was dedicated to it, proving that not 'anybody can do it'.
Elite your workout is intense! I bet it was hard when you first started.
Yeah it takes huge dedication, but if someone had this and was able to go to a gym regularly and (quickly) learnt the techniques, you saying this said person couldnt become the worlds best???
yeah, it's a genetic thing
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shit...dats alot.
i use 2 work on upper body since FS built my lower body. but now my parents stoped making/providing food 4 me and i dont have dat much cash 2 go out and get food evryday. so no food means no workout 4 me.
Are you for real? Do you live with your parents and they refuse to pay your food? Do you have your own job or what caused them into taking that decision?
sorry, i wasnt clear. i didnt mean litrally no food. but its not enuf 4 body building. 2-3 meals a day keeps u alive. working out isnt going 2 do much building if u dont get extra food.
the decision? i didnt do 2 good in skool and some other 'bad things' :P
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shit...dats alot.
i use 2 work on upper body since FS built my lower body. but now my parents stoped making/providing food 4 me and i dont have dat much cash 2 go out and get food evryday. so no food means no workout 4 me.
Are you for real? Do you live with your parents and they refuse to pay your food? Do you have your own job or what caused them into taking that decision?
sorry, i wasnt clear. i didnt mean litrally no food. but its not enuf 4 body building. 2-3 meals a day keeps u alive. working out isnt going 2 do much building if u dont get extra food.
the decision? i didnt do 2 good in skool and some other 'bad things' :P
Lol, how old are you?
I haven't been dependent on my parents for such things for 2 years, lol.
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shit...dats alot.
i use 2 work on upper body since FS built my lower body. but now my parents stoped making/providing food 4 me and i dont have dat much cash 2 go out and get food evryday. so no food means no workout 4 me.
Are you for real? Do you live with your parents and they refuse to pay your food? Do you have your own job or what caused them into taking that decision?
sorry, i wasnt clear. i didnt mean litrally no food. but its not enuf 4 body building. 2-3 meals a day keeps u alive. working out isnt going 2 do much building if u dont get extra food.
the decision? i didnt do 2 good in skool and some other 'bad things' :P
Lol, how old are you?
I haven't been dependent on my parents for such things for 2 years, lol.
im 18. how do u get ur food wen ur low on cash?
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I must admit the pictures came out worse than I thought and therefore I won't publish them at the moment atleast but I will keep them on my hard drive to compare in a couple of months.
Sorry for getting your hopes up then crushin it. :biggrin:
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maybe this picture will keep hopes alive; but remember, no homo
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00046st8.jpg
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When did you start working out?
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seriously working out....this about 8 months ago, a bit on and off
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That's pretty good then. I can never really get focused, I'd go a few times to the weight room at school ($75 a year), and then I'd stop because I'm always busy. I guess it's all about dedication.
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i don't look at it as dedication, but i figure if i spend so much time eating, sometimes unhealthy food, then it's my responsibility to take an hour out of my day to keep myself healthy. it's really a must to me, to do some sort of working out daily.
$75!? christ, at least most university's keep it "free"
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$75!? christ, at least most university's keep it "free"
75? thats a fucking bargain. Free wtf, Gyms are fucking expensive here, especially university ones.
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when i say free, you've got to remember the $40,000 a year that my university costs (oh and non students do pay an anual fee)
the last thing i'd want free is gym access at school anyway.
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I like how there is a price on it though, otherwise you'd get people in there just fooling around and it would be crowded. At my school, there is maybe 8-10 people max on most days, it's nice and clean.
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Hm, ours is rarely crowded, but we are a small school. The only time it's crowded is when the basketball team is working out on weekdays.
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when i say free, you've got to remember the $40,000 a year that my university costs (oh and non students do pay an anual fee)
the last thing i'd want free is gym access at school anyway.
Cot damn, that better involve accommodation, food etc etc... Do you pay that amount every year?
Here its like 4000~6000 max a semester for course in my faculty don't know about others but usually depends on what subjects your taking. We don't pay it now tho, once you qulify and you are owning 35K+ a year then they take a porting of your weekly pay check until you pay that shit off. Unless you can afford to pay that shit now or your not a citizen (i.e) international student. How does it work in the US?
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Yeah; every year. It does involve housing, meal plan, books, gym etc.
Basically, i get a base scholarship for each year for four years. (This is how most Universities here do it)
Say, 15,000. Then I'd apply for federal aid, via FAFSA. This way i get grants and loans (usually subsidized) provided by the school/gov't based on my parents income. Since my parents aren't very well off, I get a good amount of grants to go with my scholarship, which is why i'm at an expensive school, but it is private. Most public universities cost anywhere from 5,000-20,000 a year.
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wow elite nice work man! You can clearly see what your workout routine has done to your upper body!
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wow elite nice work man! You can clearly see what your workout routine has done to your upper body!
yo thanks. once you get into that routine of doing something, it feels good to know it paid off.
@ borg, if you'd commit yourself to just a single hour per day of a specific routine, you will achieve whatever goal it is you're trying to (getting bigger, leaner, cut, ripped, whatever)
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Thats alright. Still a good amount of money, you can't afford to fuck around my man. Its my second year this year, first was free for me so I kinda slacked. :nopity:
Cheers for the beak down.
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Yep; it can be broken down further, but that's not necessary :thumbsup:
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@ borg, if you'd commit yourself to just a single hour per day of a specific routine, you will achieve whatever goal it is you're trying to (getting bigger, leaner, cut, ripped, whatever)
Cheers! :cheers:
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Looking good Elite :cheers:
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thanks brother, i try so hard for beyondfootball :thumbsup:
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Guys what do you eat after working out?
I usually have a protein shake (ran out atm) and a banana or some tuna or some porridge or something like that.
Also i found out the other day peanut butter is high in protein so i have a little bit of that.
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the best protein shake:
buy yourself some good whey protein, but cheap. it's all the same. use lowfat milk, add protein, a banana, and a lot of peanut butter. it's delicious and it's effective.
besides those, i snack on protein bars about an hour before working out. after i drink the protein shake, but if not available, don't worry. eat something hearty. chicken and pasta, loaded turkey sandwich, or of course more protein bars
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whats a good protein bar? I never seen them in the shops.
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The key with the protein is that you dont need absolutely loads i.e. having 3/4 times your gda, this wont continue to build up muscle. You only need enough to top your levels back up, the rest will be excess and unused. Some people think that if they take loadsa protein it will carry on to build muscle.
Gettin' energy is obv. important too, before and after, but the same goes with above, if you dont use it then excess will jus be stored as fat.
(Not that i think you guys do this, jus sayin)
I guess sensible eatin is the key.
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i lead a very unhealthy lifestyle, i drink regulary, once a week or two. I eat alot of crap, cookies, biscits, sweets, chocolate bars, lots of sugar :biggrin:. I rarely have regular meals and i sleep alot. Only exercise i get is freestyle. I am super unhealthy, but it doesnt bother me.
lol, look at my first post in this thread. I have completely changed!
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whats a good protein bar? I never seen them in the shops.
premier nutrion protien bars in peanut butter are absolutely delicious. 30 grams of protien per bar.
(http://www.phoenixathletic.com/images/643843000020.jpg)
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Ussually have a protein shake, eat anything
Peanut butter is a great source of protein. So is chicken, wholegrain foods, pasta, oats...
Mishashi bars are good.
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whats a good protein bar? I never seen them in the shops.
premier nutrion protien bars in peanut butter are absolutely delicious. 30 grams of protien per bar.
(http://www.phoenixathletic.com/images/643843000020.jpg)
30 grams of protein per bar? what a waste. the body can only consume 20g at a time so 10g goes to waste. whoever made those protein bars obviously knows nothing and those who buy it know even less.
edit: i got myself confused now.. what i said might only be correct for a specific type of protein.. hmm <guy scratching head smiley>
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if you eat a large amount of protein, say 70 grams, your body will use more of it for energy. but your body can adapt and you could consume 200 grams of proteins at a sit in. your body adapts. you think 10 grams of protiens go to waste? don't be a fucking fool.
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lol you see ronnie coleman have like 6-8 scoops in his protein shake.
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Your body uses protein as it's major source of material for building and repairing blood, muscles, bones, teeth, skin, hair, nails, and your internal organs. Protein comes from a Greek word meaning "of primary importance."
Protein molecules also make up certain enzymes and hormones and serve as important regulators in your body. They help maintain your blood pressure, blood sugar level, and your metabolism.
Protein is the most complex group of substances known to science. It is made up of smaller molecules called amino acids. Your body needs a total of 22 different amino acids to form all of its necessary protein. Your cells can make many of them, but 8 of them can be obtained only through the food you eat. These 8 are called the essential amino acids. They are tryptophan, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, threonine, valine, leucine, and isoleucine.
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thank you wiki-jono
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how come cigar omar dosen't come to this topic and offer his insight?
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thank you wiki-jono
I try and help out wherever i can :cheers:
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
thats wat i did for 3 months and all i got was a little bigger and more toned. do i have 2 eat alot alot or can i replace some of it with protien shakes.
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
thats wat i did for 3 months and all i got was a little bigger and more toned. do i have 2 eat alot alot or can i replace some of it with protien shakes.
Protein shakes shouldnt be used as a replacement for meals. Try and eat foods high in complex carbs, good fats and protein. Foods you should be looking at include:
Fish, nuts, red meat, chicken, yams, fruit, whole grain foods, pasta, oats etc...
To gain weight efficiently, you need to eat a meal atleast once every 2 hours. The meal doesnt have to leave you full, just satisfied. And remember to drink heaps of water, more than 8 glasses. Like 1.5 litres!
Try and stay away from alcohol, coffee, tea, energy drinks like V, redbull.
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
thats wat i did for 3 months and all i got was a little bigger and more toned. do i have 2 eat alot alot or can i replace some of it with protien shakes.
Protein shakes shouldnt be used as a replacement for meals. Try and eat foods high in complex carbs, good fats and protein. Foods you should be looking at include:
Fish, nuts, red meat, chicken, yams, fruit, whole grain foods, pasta, oats etc...
To gain weight efficiently, you need to eat a meal atleast once every 2 hours. The meal doesnt have to leave you full, just satisfied. And remember to drink heaps of water, more than 8 glasses. Like 1.5 litres!
Try and stay away from alcohol, coffee, tea, energy drinks like V, redbull.
fuck dat, way too much 2 do lol. but yea, ill try.
i drink like 2.5L of water a day so thats not a problem. i eat lots of chicken but not much red meats except macca's and lots of fruit, whole grains, pasta's and stuff but i also eat heaps of junk food. so maybe thats the problem, too much fatty foods(i way 65) so im not fat :P
btw wen u say eat every 2 hours does an apple count? like i ate an apple 2 hours ago and then another fruit or somthin after 2 hours. or does it have 2 be more than that.
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Try and stay away from alcohol, coffee, tea, energy drinks like V, redbull.
2 glasses of wine a day :thumbsup:
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
Ref:
Cedrick, (1995). Strength and Conditioning Journal 17
BENEDICT, TAN, 1999: Manipulating Resistance Training Program Variables to Optimize Maximum Strength in Men: A Review. The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: Vol. 13, No. 3, pp. 289–304.
HARRIS, GLENN R., MICHAEL H. STONE, HAROLD S. O'BRYANT, CHRISTOPHER M. PROULX, ROBERT L. JOHNSON, 2000: Short-Term Performance Effects of High Power, High Force, or Combined Weight-Training Methods. The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: Vol. 14, No. 1, pp. 14–20
Hoeger, Werner W.K., Sandra L. Barette, Douglas F. Hale, David R. Hopkins, 1987: Relationship Between Repetitions and Selected Percentages of One Repetition Maximum. The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: Vol. 1, No. 1, pp. 11–13
Ruther, Christine L., Catherine L. Golden, Robert T. Harris, Gary A. Dudley, 1995: Hypertrophy, Resistance Training, and the Nature of Skeletal Muscle Activation. The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research: Vol. 9, No. 3, pp. 155–159
Fukui, Y. et al. (1986). High-resolution immunofluorescence for the study of the contractile apparatus. In "The Contractile Apparatus and the Ctyoskeleton" ("Structure and Contractile Proteins", Meth.Enzymol.134, Part D), ed R. B. Vallee, Academic Press, pp. 573-580.
Henneman, E et al "Functional Significance of cell size in spinal motor neurons." Journal of Neurophysiology 28: 560-580. 1965.
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woop woop, my parents started feeding me properly again. im gonna start working out. need some help tho.
if uve seen any of my vids u may notice i am a bit toned. i really wanna get a bigger chest, back, arms.
any tips 2 get big?
Train like a freak, eat like a slave, and sleep like a baby :thumbsup:
Since you wanna get bigger, next time you go gym lift heavy, low reps and low sets. Try and remove as much cardio as you can. Drink heaps of water and eat ALOT!
thats wat i did for 3 months and all i got was a little bigger and more toned. do i have 2 eat alot alot or can i replace some of it with protien shakes.
Protein shakes shouldnt be used as a replacement for meals. Try and eat foods high in complex carbs, good fats and protein. Foods you should be looking at include:
Fish, nuts, red meat, chicken, yams, fruit, whole grain foods, pasta, oats etc...
To gain weight efficiently, you need to eat a meal atleast once every 2 hours. The meal doesnt have to leave you full, just satisfied. And remember to drink heaps of water, more than 8 glasses. Like 1.5 litres!
Try and stay away from alcohol, coffee, tea, energy drinks like V, redbull.
fuck dat, way too much 2 do lol. but yea, ill try.
i drink like 2.5L of water a day so thats not a problem. i eat lots of chicken but not much red meats except macca's and lots of fruit, whole grains, pasta's and stuff but i also eat heaps of junk food. so maybe thats the problem, too much fatty foods(i way 65) so im not fat :P
btw wen u say eat every 2 hours does an apple count? like i ate an apple 2 hours ago and then another fruit or somthin after 2 hours. or does it have 2 be more than that.
nah man you gotta eat more than an apple every two hours
so for example something id have would be two sandwhiches with tuna (whole grain bread) and an apple. Along with plenty of water.
The reason i say stay away from alcohol and drinks with caffiene, is because they dehydrate the body. And if you want to gain weight than this is not good. But once in awile out with friends its aiight.
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wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
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wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
yer man of course! mix it up on mine i put tuna, lettuce, tomatoes....wateva
tuna in oil is better, i think, check the nutrution table and compare both...whichever has more protein than pick it
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wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
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i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
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wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
oh ok. so 9=low 10=excelent 11=very good 12=Good Within Rep R rite?
if i do 10 reps of high weight ill gain mass?
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Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
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Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
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20kg of what? dumbell curls, bench press, deadlifts?
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i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
this is exactly how many you should be doing
wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
9-12 reps is low fool
If you want to bulk its low reps, low sets. So what macca said about 8 reps and 3 sets, and it has to be heavy. You can push yourself a few extra reps if your not feeling the burn and if its on your last sets
If you want to get more cut, than lift light, with many reps.
Of course you will build strength with high resistance weights training, its appropriatly called "strength" training.
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Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
cut down on sets and make it heavier
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Does anyone wonder what Skora eats? Perhaps something that gives him such talent?!
Haha no seriously though I bet he is real healthy to have such great stamina.
After long hours of freestyle, every day, stamina was developed :cheers:
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i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
this is exactly how many you should be doing
wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
9-12 reps is low fool
If you want to bulk its low reps, low sets. So what macca said about 8 reps and 3 sets, and it has to be heavy. You can push yourself a few extra reps if your not feeling the burn and if its on your last sets
If you want to get more cut, than lift light, with many reps.
Of course you will build strength with high resistance weights training, its appropriatly called "strength" training.
If 9-12 is a low amount of reps than what is 1-2?
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20kg of what? dumbell curls, bench press, deadlifts?
siting curl and hammer curls.
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
cut down on sets and make it heavier
i dont think i can lift much more heavier coz i gotta go up by 2.2kg intervals. i dont have small plates :(
so i should do 7 reps of 5 sets yea?
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i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
this is exactly how many you should be doing
wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
9-12 reps is low fool
If you want to bulk its low reps, low sets. So what macca said about 8 reps and 3 sets, and it has to be heavy. You can push yourself a few extra reps if your not feeling the burn and if its on your last sets
If you want to get more cut, than lift light, with many reps.
Of course you will build strength with high resistance weights training, its appropriatly called "strength" training.
If 9-12 is a low amount of reps than what is 1-2?
Well i wasnt referring to the table you quoted. On own experiance of going to gym, and watching and getting advice from others, the appropriate amount of reps for getting bulk should be between 8-10, you can go 1 or 2 reps higher to push yourself, but the average is in there.
20kg of what? dumbell curls, bench press, deadlifts?
siting curl and hammer curls.
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
cut down on sets and make it heavier
i dont think i can lift much more heavier coz i gotta go up by 2.2kg intervals. i dont have small plates :(
so i should do 7 reps of 5 sets yea?
How much do you bench?
And whats your rest intervals between each set?
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My tip to you Jono is to read books, get information on the internet, read studdies and don't rely on what you've heard from others
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My tip to you Jono is to read books, get information on the internet, read studdies and don't rely on what you've heard from others
I just read a nice article containing worthy information on working out, what to eat, how to stretch each muscle and whatnot. If you stretch while you're working out it helps your muscles grow even faster. I actually didn't know that. I usually just stretch before a workout but not during.
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i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
this is exactly how many you should be doing
wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
9-12 reps is low fool
If you want to bulk its low reps, low sets. So what macca said about 8 reps and 3 sets, and it has to be heavy. You can push yourself a few extra reps if your not feeling the burn and if its on your last sets
If you want to get more cut, than lift light, with many reps.
Of course you will build strength with high resistance weights training, its appropriatly called "strength" training.
If 9-12 is a low amount of reps than what is 1-2?
Well i wasnt referring to the table you quoted. On own experiance of going to gym, and watching and getting advice from others, the appropriate amount of reps for getting bulk should be between 8-10, you can go 1 or 2 reps higher to push yourself, but the average is in there.
20kg of what? dumbell curls, bench press, deadlifts?
siting curl and hammer curls.
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
cut down on sets and make it heavier
i dont think i can lift much more heavier coz i gotta go up by 2.2kg intervals. i dont have small plates :(
so i should do 7 reps of 5 sets yea?
How much do you bench?
And whats your rest intervals between each set?
i dont really bench press, but wen i last went 2 the gym i did 60kg 8 reps, 2 sets. although i have a bench press thing, i cbs moving the plates evrytime :P
i like push ups and handstand push ups more.
i rest 2mins per set wen doing biceps. thats enuf time rite
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My tip to you Jono is to read books, get information on the internet, read studdies and don't rely on what you've heard from others
What are you saying? The stuff im saying is wrong? Is it? If what, tell me what ive said that has been wrong. Because i know the things ive said up to this point is right, and i know you know what im saying aiint wrong. So close your mouth. Do you have any personal experiance? Ive done my research, ive put that research into practise, what have you done?
i usually do around 8 reps, 3 sets of whatever lift i am doing.
this is exactly how many you should be doing
wats does this mean, the very low, low etc part
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
and thanks 4 the advice jono :thumbsup:
ill try eat more tuna..i got lots of it. but im probely going 2 use regular bread. in the tuna, can it be tuna in oil or the water one? and can i put other stuff in it e.g bit of lemon juice, lettuce, etc
It means that different types of muscle fibres are stimulated depending on how many reps you do. As you see Jono is clearly wrong when he told you to do low reps for mass, this studdy and every other studdy on this topic shows that low reps are for strenght, for mass you should do 9-12 reps as you see in this studdy this gave excellent volume results
9-12 reps is low fool
If you want to bulk its low reps, low sets. So what macca said about 8 reps and 3 sets, and it has to be heavy. You can push yourself a few extra reps if your not feeling the burn and if its on your last sets
If you want to get more cut, than lift light, with many reps.
Of course you will build strength with high resistance weights training, its appropriatly called "strength" training.
If 9-12 is a low amount of reps than what is 1-2?
Well i wasnt referring to the table you quoted. On own experiance of going to gym, and watching and getting advice from others, the appropriate amount of reps for getting bulk should be between 8-10, you can go 1 or 2 reps higher to push yourself, but the average is in there.
20kg of what? dumbell curls, bench press, deadlifts?
siting curl and hammer curls.
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
Do you see it now? With 9-12 reps Type I muscle fibres are stimulated low, type IIa excellent, type IIb very good
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that. does it mean like, all the muscles in ur biceps r made from those fibres and if u do 9-12 reps u will gain mass faster rite?
i do 20kg, 6 sets on 8 reps; its pretty heavey for me. is that the rite way 2 gain mass? because i cant do 9-12.
cut down on sets and make it heavier
i dont think i can lift much more heavier coz i gotta go up by 2.2kg intervals. i dont have small plates :(
so i should do 7 reps of 5 sets yea?
How much do you bench?
And whats your rest intervals between each set?
i dont really bench press, but wen i last went 2 the gym i did 60kg 8 reps, 2 sets. although i have a bench press thing, i cbs moving the plates evrytime :P
i like push ups and handstand push ups more.
i rest 2mins per set wen doing biceps. thats enuf time rite
See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
My advice is to switch doing push ups to doing bench. You dont have to give it up all together, but you should include bench press into your routine.
Have you been weighing yourself? Have you been putting on weight or has it been constant for along time?
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See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
My advice is to switch doing push ups to doing bench. You dont have to give it up all together, but you should include bench press into your routine.
Have you been weighing yourself? Have you been putting on weight or has it been constant for along time?
ahh i c. ok ill do bench...im going 2 have 2 buy more plates
i wiegh my self regurlary its been 65-68kg for a wile. im eating tuna wen theres no food so i can gain some wieght :thumbsup:
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See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
My advice is to switch doing push ups to doing bench. You dont have to give it up all together, but you should include bench press into your routine.
Have you been weighing yourself? Have you been putting on weight or has it been constant for along time?
ahh i c. ok ill do bench...im going 2 have 2 buy more plates
i wiegh my self regurlary its been 65-68kg for a wile. im eating tuna wen theres no food so i can gain some wieght :thumbsup:
If your weight has been constant for a long time its because your not eating enough.
Remember what i said try and eat a satifying high carb meal every two hours. And cut down on as much cardio as possible. This includes freestyle, but if dont wanna cut down on it, make sure you drink heaps of water during freestyle, and eat alot after....ALOT
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My tip to you Jono is to read books, get information on the internet, read studdies and don't rely on what you've heard from others
If you stretch while you're working out it helps your muscles grow even faster.
No it doesn't. Show your source for this. It has been proven several time that stretching gives you no more than flexibility in your muscle, something working out in full rom also does which in most cases for most people make stretching useless
Department of Rehabilitation, Academy of Physical Education, Al. Jana Pawla II 78, 31-571 Kraków, Poland.
OBJECTIVE: The objective of this study was to assess the influence of different relaxation modes: stretching (ST), active recovery (AR), and passive recovery (PR) on muscle relaxation after dynamic exercise of the quadriceps femoris. DESIGN: Ten healthy male volunteers between 24 and 38 yrs of age participated in this study. After the warm-up, subjects performed three sets of dynamic leg extension and flexion (at an angle of 20-110 degrees) at 50% of previously determined maximal voluntary contraction (MVC), with 30 secs. of rest between sets. Immediately after completing the leg exercise, one of the relaxation methods was applied, in a randomized order (AR, PR, ST). Then, subjects performed isometric knee extension at 50% of MVC to the point of fatigue, and surface electromyogram (EMG) of the vastus lateralis muscle was measured. RESULTS: After AR, the mean MVC was significantly (P < 0.05) higher than after PR and ST. Moreover, there was no difference in MVC between AR and baseline (P > 0.05). Total time of the effort during EMG measurement was significantly lower for all three recovery modes than at baseline. During the effort after both PR and ST, there was no significant increase in motor unit activation, but a significant increase was noted after AR (P < 0.05). There was no difference in frequency between any of the recovery modes and baseline (P > 0.05). CONCLUSION: The results of this study suggest that the most appropriate and effective recovery mode after dynamic muscle fatigue involves light, active exercises, such as cycling with minimal resistance.
To examine the time course (immediate, 10, 20, and 30 min) for the acute effects of 2, 4, and 8 min of passive stretching (PS) on isometric peak torque (PT), percent voluntary activation (%VA), EMG amplitude, peak twitch torque (PTT), rate of twitch torque development (RTD), and range of motion (ROM) of the plantarflexors.
Thirteen volunteers (mean +/- SD age, 22 +/- 3 yr) participated in four randomly ordered experimental trials: control (CON) with no stretching, 2 min (PS2), 4 min (PS4), and 8 min (PS8) of PS. Testing was conducted before (pre), immediately after (post), and at 10, 20, and 30 min poststretching. The PS trials involved varied repetitions of 30-s passive stretches, whereas the CON trial included 15 min of resting. PT, %VA, EMG amplitude, PTT, and RTD were assessed during the twitch interpolation technique, whereas ROM was quantified as the maximum tolerable angle of passive dorsiflexion.
PT decreased (P</= 0.05) immediately after all conditions [CON (4%), PS2 (2%), PS4 (4%), and PS8 (6%)] but returned to baseline at 10, 20, and 30 min poststretching. %VA and EMG amplitude were unaltered (P > 0.05) after all conditions. PTT and RTD decreased (P </= 0.05) immediately after the PS4 (7%) and the PS8 (6%) conditions only; however, these changes were not sufficient to alter voluntary force production. There were also increases (P </= 0.05) in ROM after the PS2 (8%), the PS4 (14%), and the PS8 (13%) conditions that returned to baseline after 10 min.
Practical durations of stretching (2, 4, or 8 min) of the plantarflexors did not decrease isometric PT compared with the CON but caused temporary improvements in the ROM, thereby questioning the overall detrimental influence of PS on performance.
Cryotherapy, stretching, homeopathy, ultrasound and electrical current modalities have demonstrated no effect on the alleviation of muscle soreness or other DOMS symptoms."
Sports Med. 2003;33(2):145-64. Delayed onset muscle soreness : treatment strategies and performance factors.
"The exercise bout produced severe DOMS, with parameters peaking and troughing at 48 h postexercise. However, no significant differences were found, regarding any of the parameters, when comparing stretched and nonstretched legs."
Scand J Med Sci Sports. 1999 Aug;9(4):219-25.
"Other conventional approaches, such as massage, ultrasound, and stretching appear less promising."
J Strength Cond Res. 2003 Feb;17(1):197-208. Treatment and prevention of delayed onset muscle soreness.
"It is concluded that passive stretching did not have any significant influence on increased plasma-CK, muscle pain, muscle strength and the PCr/P(i) ratio, indicating that passive stretching after eccentric exercise cannot prevent secondary pathological alterations."
Scand J Med Sci Sports. 1998 Aug;8(4):216-21. The effect of stretching on delayed onset muscle soreness, and other detrimental effects following eccentric exercise.
"Stretching before or after exercising does not confer protection from muscle soreness."
BMJ. 2002 Aug 31;325(7362):468, Effects of stretching before and after exercising on muscle soreness and risk of injury: systematic review.
"No time-by-treatment interactions were found. DOMS on pressure, extension angle and myoglobin concentration in blood did not differ between the groups."
Int J Sports Med. 1994 Oct;15(7):414-9.
"We concluded that static stretching and/or warm-up does not prevent DOMS resulting from exhaustive exercise."
Res Q Exerc Sport. 1989 Dec;60(4):357-61.
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See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
Incorrect once again.
The only thing that matters is your calory balance. If you've ate more than you've burned you will gain weight. If you eat less than you burn you will loose weight.
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Sorry oLi.
I read that when you stretch, you're obviously stretching the muscle which helps it grow and recover faster, resulting in it being bigger.
Oh well.
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Why are you saying sorry? :dontknow:
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Cause I'm a nice guy. :cheers:
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See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
Incorrect once again.
The only thing that matters is your calory balance. If you've ate more than you've burned you will gain weight. If you eat less than you burn you will loose weight.
Incorrect once again ? Seriously you need to stop trying and proving me wrong all the time, like I said before find something I have said that has been wrong, if you can't than close your mouth.
There are different exercises for bulking and for cutting up. Just like there is different exercises for anerobic exercise, as there is for aerobic exercise.
L_I_S said before he does pushups for 2 minutes, this is an endurance exercise, and will not help in bulking. He is not lifting heavy and he is doing many reps. For eg. it is like doing 10kg benchpress for 2 minutes, probably even lighter.
You should check out the rest of the post where you got my quote from, because im sure i said you have to EAT, and im sure ive said it before in other posts that you have to eat if you want to bulk.
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See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
Incorrect once again.
The only thing that matters is your calory balance. If you've ate more than you've burned you will gain weight. If you eat less than you burn you will loose weight.
Incorrect once again ? Seriously you need to stop trying and proving me wrong all the time, like I said before find something I have said that has been wrong, if you can't than close your mouth.
There are different exercises for bulking and for cutting up. Just like there is different exercises for anerobic exercise, as there is for aerobic exercise.
L_I_S said before he does pushups for 2 minutes, this is an endurance exercise, and will not help in bulking. He is not lifting heavy and he is doing many reps. For eg. it is like doing 10kg benchpress for 2 minutes, probably even lighter.
You should check out the rest of the post where you got my quote from, because im sure i said you have to EAT, and im sure ive said it before in other posts that you have to eat if you want to bulk.
naa i rest for 2mins between evrything. i do 30 push ups with 2 sets. wat if i put about 8kg on my back and do push ups? ive tried and its alot harder
See thats a problem right there, although push ups are great, they are for cutting up your body. So this is a possible reason why your getting more cut and toned rather than getting more bulk.
My advice is to switch doing push ups to doing bench. You dont have to give it up all together, but you should include bench press into your routine.
Have you been weighing yourself? Have you been putting on weight or has it been constant for along time?
ahh i c. ok ill do bench...im going 2 have 2 buy more plates
i wiegh my self regurlary its been 65-68kg for a wile. im eating tuna wen theres no food so i can gain some wieght :thumbsup:
If your weight has been constant for a long time its because your not eating enough.
Remember what i said try and eat a satifying high carb meal every two hours. And cut down on as much cardio as possible. This includes freestyle, but if dont wanna cut down on it, make sure you drink heaps of water during freestyle, and eat alot after....ALOT
yea ill try eat more. my wieght hasnt moved much in a wile. i drink alot of water wile freestyling :thumbsup:
thanks for all the advice guys. appreciate it
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There are different exercises for bulking and for cutting up. Just like there is different exercises for anerobic exercise, as there is for aerobic exercise.
Manipulations in your nutrient intake are the main factor in getting cut up, and how you do it doesn't matter. If your daily caloric expenditure exceeds your daily caloric intake on a consistent basis, you will lose fat and get more cut.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/30lies.htm
sorry i dont know wat muscle fibre means and all that
Type I vs. Type II Fibers
Several different types of muscle fiber can be found in most skeletal muscles: Type I and two (in humans) and three (in mice) subtypes of Type II fibers. Each type differs in the myosin it uses and also in its structure and biochemistry.
Type I Fibers
loaded with mitochondria and
depend on cellular respiration for ATP production
fatty acids the major energy source
resistant to fatigue
rich in myoglobin and hence red in color (the "dark" meat of the turkey)
activated by small-diameter, thus slow-conducting, motor neurons
also known as "slow-twitch" fibers
dominant in muscles used in activities requiring endurance (leg muscles) and those that depend on tonus, e.g., those responsible for posture
Type IIb Fibers
few mitochondria
rich in glycogen and
depend on creatine phosphate and glycolysis for ATP production
fatigue easily with the production of lactic acid
low in myoglobin hence whitish in color (the white meat of the turkey)
activated by large-diameter, thus fast-conducting, motor neurons
also known as "fast-twitch" fibers
dominant in muscles used for rapid movement, e.g., those moving the eyeballs.
The other subtypes of Type II fibers have properties intermediate between those of Type IIb and Type I.
http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/M/Muscles.html
@oli: thanks for this:
Repetition Range: Type I, Type IIA, Type IIB, Strength Gains
1-2 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Low, Excellent
3-5 repetitions: Very Low, Low, Decent to Good, Excellent
6-8 repetitions: Very Low, Good, Excellent, Good
9-12 repetitions: Low, Excellent, Very Good, Good Within Rep R.
13-15 repetitions: Decent, Very Good, Decent to Good, Endurance
16-25 repetitions: Very Good, Diminishing, Low, Endurance
25-50 repetitions: Excellent, Low, Very Low, Endurance
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It's ok man I'm glad I could help. I got it of a Swedish genius that's at the same work out forum as me. Guy has 45000 posts (general chat posts don't count on this forum) and he has sick eduaction where he has learned about nutrition on a chemical level. If I see him post some more interesting studdies that I think might benefit some of you guys here I'll be sure to do it :thumbsup:
And Jono no hard feelings, I must've misunderstood you.
After 2 days of rest (fucking gym closed on holidays what kind of bullshit is that) I'm finally going back to the gym! Chest bicep ab day today. Going back to my old schedule.
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It's ok man I'm glad I could help. I got it of a Swedish genius that's at the same work out forum as me. Guy has 45000 posts (general chat posts don't count on this forum) and he has sick eduaction where he has learned about nutrition on a chemical level. If I see him post some more interesting studdies that I think might benefit some of you guys here I'll be sure to do it :thumbsup:
And Jono no hard feelings, I must've misunderstood you.
After 2 days of rest (fucking gym closed on holidays what kind of bullshit is that) I'm finally going back to the gym! Chest bicep ab day today. Going back to my old schedule.
Its all good :thumbsup:
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I'm not going to comment this. Watch yourselves.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/...view/1880/204/
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Sorry about that, honest mistake.
http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1880/204/
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insane
but i wouldn't hesitate to fight a mother fucker that big
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naa i rest for 2mins between evrything. i do 30 push ups with 2 sets. wat if i put about 8kg on my back and do push ups? ive tried and its alot harder
Sorry for the late response, pushups by itself is not good for bulking. Yeah you can put 8kg on your back, but dont go for 30 seconds. Do like 10 pushups 3 sets, and if its too easy make it heavier
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i've gotten considerably "bulkier" by doing pushups. it's about how much you eat before and after doing them, and how you do them (don't do pushups fast. take your time :cheers:)
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Yeah so far I've only done pushups, because I like to stay lean, but I've put on NO bulk, all I've got is definition, so I'm starting weights tomorrow actually. I'm also buying a punching bag for home finally :biggrin:
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you can keep your pullup and pushup routine and just increase your protein intake and you'll be fine. how do you think most fighters get big? they don't really use weights, and if they do it's minimal.
just look at cheik congo
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you can keep your pullup and pushup routine and just increase your protein intake and you'll be fine. how do you think most fighters get big? they don't really use weights, and if they do it's minimal.
just look at cheik congo
I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better. I'm actually using dumbells only, so it won't be that much of a deviation
I'm not looking to get really bulky, just to gain some muscle mass for soccer and martial arts
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I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better.
:o
do you know how simple and efficient pushups are?!
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you can keep your pullup and pushup routine and just increase your protein intake and you'll be fine. how do you think most fighters get big? they don't really use weights, and if they do it's minimal.
just look at cheik congo
I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better. I'm actually using dumbells only, so it won't be that much of a deviation
I'm not looking to get really bulky, just to gain some muscle mass for soccer and martial arts
Yeah than do what elite said, include more protein into your diet. This will help your muscle development, and leaving out extra carbs wont get you any bulkier.
you can keep your pullup and pushup routine and just increase your protein intake and you'll be fine. how do you think most fighters get big? they don't really use weights, and if they do it's minimal.
just look at cheik congo
Yer your right, i train MMA, been doing it for over a year now, we rarely train using weights.
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I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better.
:o
do you know how simple and efficient pushups are?!
No I meant with the protein stuff
I eat healthy, but mainly fresh fruit and vegetables, tofu, dairy, bread, and chicken. I don't eat beef or pork, and I get my iron from vitamins, mainly
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I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better.
:o
do you know how simple and efficient pushups are?!
It depends on your body type, and how you mentioned before how you do your pushups.
Doing pushups if you have an ectomorph body type wont get you any bulkier. Pushups help cut you up, and tone your body. Its hard for you to get bigger from doing them.
But like you already said, it depends on your diet. If your eating alot and properly you will get bigger.
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I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better.
:o
do you know how simple and efficient pushups are?!
It depends on your body type, and how you mentioned before how you do your pushups.
Doing pushups if you have an ectomorph body type wont get you any bulkier. Pushups help cut you up, and tone your body. Its hard for you to get bigger from doing them.
But like you already said, it depends on your diet. If your eating alot and properly you will get bigger.
well, I'm definitely an ectomorph, so that would be why :thumbsup:The thing is, wth pushups, I get stronger, but I am still really light, so I get pushed off the ball more easily in soccer that in I had the same strength but were heavier
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I have a very limited amount of time, so I think the weights will work better.
:o
do you know how simple and efficient pushups are?!
It depends on your body type, and how you mentioned before how you do your pushups.
Doing pushups if you have an ectomorph body type wont get you any bulkier. Pushups help cut you up, and tone your body. Its hard for you to get bigger from doing them.
But like you already said, it depends on your diet. If your eating alot and properly you will get bigger.
well, I'm definitely an ectomorph, so that would be why :thumbsup:The thing is, wth pushups, I get stronger, but I am still really light, so I get pushed off the ball more easily in soccer that in I had the same strength but were heavier
don't let size fool you. use your strength to your advantage and watch how powerful you can become. bruce lee, all of 125 pounds could hold a barbell 135 lb heavey directly in front of him.
gain power, and you will gain strength. fuck size.
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Anyone know of a good way of getting in shape for football? Haven't played in awhile and need to get back in shape for the spring. (I have terrible stamina) I need like a work out program, ya?
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Anyone know of a good way of getting in shape for football? Haven't played in awhile and need to get back in shape for the spring. (I have terrible stamina) I need like a work out program, ya?
Yer man of course. Try doing some aerobic exercise. Go for long runs. Skip rope is a great way of getting fit back from a long rest. Youll be surprised how much of a workout you get from it :thumbsup:
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naa i rest for 2mins between evrything. i do 30 push ups with 2 sets. wat if i put about 8kg on my back and do push ups? ive tried and its alot harder
Sorry for the late response, pushups by itself is not good for bulking. Yeah you can put 8kg on your back, but dont go for 30 seconds. Do like 10 pushups 3 sets, and if its too easy make it heavier
np. ill do that 2day :thumbsup:
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Anyone know of a good way of getting in shape for football? Haven't played in awhile and need to get back in shape for the spring. (I have terrible stamina) I need like a work out program, ya?
Yer man of course. Try doing some aerobic exercise. Go for long runs. Skip rope is a great way of getting fit back from a long rest. Youll be surprised how much of a workout you get from it :thumbsup:
Does long run mean like 3 miles?? and does anyone have any advice so i can sprint alot because when i played last week id be ok until i sprinted and i got tired real quick. i think it's the changing of speed and direction that kills me too
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Anyone know of a good way of getting in shape for football? Haven't played in awhile and need to get back in shape for the spring. (I have terrible stamina) I need like a work out program, ya?
Yer man of course. Try doing some aerobic exercise. Go for long runs. Skip rope is a great way of getting fit back from a long rest. Youll be surprised how much of a workout you get from it :thumbsup:
Does long run mean like 3 miles?? and does anyone have any advice so i can sprint alot because when i played last week id be ok until i sprinted and i got tired real quick. i think it's the changing of speed and direction that kills me too
Not how far you run, but how long you run for. Try going for a 30 minute run, keeping a constant pace.
Do some fartlek exercises
For example
Listen to a song while running, during the verses jog, during the choruses sprint.
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i am away for these holidays so its been no weights and just lots of chocolate and rubbish!
When i get home i will get back on it
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i've been home but sick; i couldn't do 20 pushups last night. i feel terrible, and i feel like i'm deflating :cursing:
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Hate being sick, but thank God I havnt been sick in a long time :biggrin:
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Not good boys :thumbsup: I freestyled 4 hours yesterday and still went to the gym. Real dedication.
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Not good boys :thumbsup: I freestyled 4 hours yesterday and still went to the gym. Real dedication.
that's pretty hardcore :3some:
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Yesterday though the retarded gym owners closed the gym 2 hours before it was supposed to so at my arrival it was already closed. Thank god it only takes me 3min to walk there.
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Does long run mean like 3 miles?? and does anyone have any advice so i can sprint alot because when i played last week id be ok until i sprinted and i got tired real quick. i think it's the changing of speed and direction that kills me too
in short, do sprints w/little recovery
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Okay, so I'm back in the gym! I've been working on my chest, and found some good exercises for the pecks. :biggrin:
I was just wondering what you guys do for biceps and abdominal?
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Okay, so I'm back in the gym! I've been working on my chest, and found some good exercises for the pecks. :biggrin:
I was just wondering what you guys do for biceps and abdominal?
biceps: curls via dumbells
abs: crunches, leg raises..one thatn works great for me is laying down and holding your straightened legs 6 inches-1 foot of the ground, and then make the shapes of numbers in the air while keeping your legs straight and using your abs. Do this for as long as possible. Its basically a harder version of leg raises. :thumbsup:
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don't let size fool you. use your strength to your advantage and watch how powerful you can become. bruce lee, all of 125 pounds could hold a barbell 135 lb heavey directly in front of him.
gain power, and you will gain strength. fuck size.
mass, and ultimately momentum, is a very nice thing to have in certain sports
oh, and i've started working out again as well. i'm working my way up to a full planche :pimp:
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Do you do any bicep exercises on the cable machines? I guess free weights would be a lot better anyway..
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don't let size fool you. use your strength to your advantage and watch how powerful you can become. bruce lee, all of 125 pounds could hold a barbell 135 lb heavey directly in front of him.
gain power, and you will gain strength. fuck size.
mass, and ultimately momentum, is a very nice thing to have in certain sports
I want to get heavier, but not too much heavier....just to make it more difficult for the huge trolls who end up covering me for some reason (since I'm usually the lightest/one of the smallest players on the field) and to improve my explosiveness so I need less time to accelerate.
Do you do any bicep exercises on the cable machines? I guess free weights would be a lot better anyway..
I think free weights might be best. Aslo, consider doing chinups. (not pullups and not those things that work your lats -- just normal chinups)
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to improve my explosiveness so I need less time to accelerate
if aren't doing plyometrics, do them. considering your time constraints, it would probably help you most to focus on your "pecs," "lats," and "abs" (your trunk)
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Wow, you guys also lift weights?
I do also, i feel funny when i lift weights and then freestyle, so i decided to freestyle then lift weights. :D
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Do you do any bicep exercises on the cable machines? I guess free weights would be a lot better anyway..
Yeah half of my bicep excercises are with cables.
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I was just wondering what you guys do for biceps
i'll do my best do describe it..:
i did 3 sets of 3 different kinds of pullups to start with:
1. chinup grip (palms facing you). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible. do three sets.
10 military style pushups in between
2. reverse chinup grip (palms facing forward). 8 pullups. go down as slowly as possible.
10 military style pushups in between
3. stand directly under pullup bar, face one of the uprights. grip pullup bar (thumb to pinkey on other hand). pull up on right side, then on left side. that's 1. 8 total. 3 sets.
10 military style pushups.
now that's just the warm up for the push up routine:
10 military style pushups (2 sets)
10 regular style pushups (2 sets)
10 diamond with feet as close in as possible. nose toches the ground (you essentially make an arc) (2 sets)
10 wide grip, with fingers facing the outsides. wide as possible. hold 4 seconds down, 4 seconds up. (2 sets)
10 "all the way up" pushups. extend arms as far forward and close together as possible in diamond. hold 2 seconds up, 2 down (2 sets)
10 "snake" pushups. down with one arm, face other arm. roll chest close to ground but dont touch. repeat with other arm. that's 1. (2 sets)
10 "jaguar" pushups. start at an arcing position (ass up) with arms regular width. swoop down low but don't touch the ground and push up with your arms. then do the reverse. that's 1 (2 sets)
the pushups mainly target the triceps, but this is by far the best arm workout i've ever done. no free weight workout works as well for developing size and power.
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
and triceps
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
and triceps
Depends on width between your hands. It's only secondary on a normal wide grip.
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Okay so today I did bench press, a few different variations on the cables, some free weights, and some different things with different bars.
I also tried some chinups and pushups. Thanks Bryan!
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I dont enjoy working out as much as i used to. =(
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I dont enjoy working out as much as i used to. =(
Its after you met me, you was so jelous of my body, and you know youll never get no where near this :banana:
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I dont enjoy working out as much as i used to. =(
Its after you met me, you was so jelous of my body, and you know youll never get no where near this :banana:
must be the reason lol, George you are so buff.
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Yeah I heard George is heeeench
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
and triceps
Depends on width between your hands. It's only secondary on a normal wide grip.
oLi is right here
to work triceps with pushups, you put your hands closer together, preferably in a diamond shape
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
and triceps
Depends on width between your hands. It's only secondary on a normal wide grip.
oLi is right here
to work triceps with pushups, you put your hands closer together, preferably in a diamond shape
yeah i already knew.
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Pushups target mainly pectorialis, both minor and major. Biceps are worked out primarely in other movements.
yes and as you said, you can target different muscles with the width of your grip. although my chest is being worked out, my routine is much more rigorous on the triceps, not only because of the width of my grip, but because they are done as slowly as possible with more focus on the triceps.
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
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Cant see em
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Cant see em
same here.
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Weird. Try now.
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
Because they enjoy the lifestyle, and you can make a lot of money.
First guy looks grotesque though, second looks good. Nice pics oLi, you really been working hard :thumbsup:
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I also tried some chinups and pushups. Thanks Bryan!
oh i heard that :cheers:
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First guy is Muntzer a bodybuilder from Schwizterland his accomplishment to date stands undeafeted he came in at 3% bodyfat to that show. Some even say that picture can be used as an anatomy chart.
Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
Because it looks great.
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
Because they enjoy the lifestyle, and you can make a lot of money.
First guy looks grotesque though, second looks good. Nice pics oLi, you really been working hard :thumbsup:
they both look grotesque...enjoy the lifestyle of what? Ingesting enough steroids to fell a horse and pumping iron just to build yourself into some kind of unnatural monster who looks like he should be in a horror movie?
@oLi: are you fucking serious? :lol:
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
Because they enjoy the lifestyle, and you can make a lot of money.
First guy looks grotesque though, second looks good. Nice pics oLi, you really been working hard :thumbsup:
they both look grotesque...enjoy the lifestyle of what? Ingesting enough steroids to fell a horse and pumping iron just to build yourself into some kind of unnatural monster who looks like he should be in a horror movie?
@oLi: are you fucking serious? :lol:
Dude i only answered your question, they can do what they want. Why dont you concentrate on your own body and life instead of criticising someone else's just because you dont like it or you dont think it looks good.
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
i'll never work that hard for my body. i wonder how social they are
first guy has massive biceps but the other guys biceps look small, or is that just me
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it's just you
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Definetly just you :biggrin:
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Decided to share some classic pictures. Just for fun.
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=andreasmunzer22hn2.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=backei8.jpg
Why wold any human being ever want to do that to themselves?
Because they enjoy the lifestyle, and you can make a lot of money.
First guy looks grotesque though, second looks good. Nice pics oLi, you really been working hard :thumbsup:
they both look grotesque...enjoy the lifestyle of what? Ingesting enough steroids to fell a horse and pumping iron just to build yourself into some kind of unnatural monster who looks like he should be in a horror movie?
@oLi: are you fucking serious? :lol:
You are pathetic. Who are you to tell me what I think looks good? Get out of my face.
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Ok so i normally eat double what i suppose to eat, i have a big big bite, since i freestyle and weight lift. You think is ok?
I try to eat healthy, but most times i don't.
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extreme bodybuilders are way too big and they are taking steroids.. like Coleman for example....
But there are bodybuilders that not taking steroids ,, and these have a very good and healthy lifstyle i think,
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Ok so i normally eat double what i suppose to eat, i have a big big bite, since i freestyle and weight lift. You think is ok?
I try to eat healthy, but most times i don't.
no one eats perfectly, well, for the most part..
just make sure you are watching your cholesteral, sodium, and caloric intake. you don't want to overload your body with these things.
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Is it me, or do you other guys find that somedays you can't do as many reps? (Or lift as much or w/e the case is.)
Like somedays (kinda often lols) I find I can only x reps, when usually I can do x2 reps. Maybe its jus my muscles being tired or something.
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Is it me, or do you other guys find that somedays you can't do as many reps? (Or lift as much or w/e the case is.)
Like somedays (kinda often lols) I find I can only x reps, when usually I can do x2 reps. Maybe its jus my muscles being tired or something.
It also depends on how much you've slept for me, at least
some days flyes are so much easier for me than others
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those pictures were a bit disturbing.
im starting to do small weights for my biceps and i have an AbKingPro in my room that i use as well.. have been working out for around 30 mins a night for about 2 weeks
i eat fialry healthily with lots of fruits and i love pasta...
so how long shud it be before i start getting some noticeable biceps and or decent 6 pack?
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those pictures were a bit disturbing.
im starting to do small weights for my biceps and i have an AbKingPro in my room that i use as well.. have been working out for around 30 mins a night for about 2 weeks
i eat fialry healthily with lots of fruits and i love pasta...
so how long shud it be before i start getting some noticeable biceps and or decent 6 pack?
biceps: 2 months-ish before you see a real change
abs: these take longer.I can't say since I was practically born with a 4pack (I'm really thin)
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those pictures were a bit disturbing.
im starting to do small weights for my biceps and i have an AbKingPro in my room that i use as well.. have been working out for around 30 mins a night for about 2 weeks
i eat fialry healthily with lots of fruits and i love pasta...
so how long shud it be before i start getting some noticeable biceps and or decent 6 pack?
lol dan, if you want big biceps and a six pack, you will probs just end up looking skinny. Here is my advice, I am sure others will agree with me.
Workout a body part a day: Arms, Chest, Back, Shoulders would be a good way to start. Your body will stay in proportion this way and you wont look like a twat.
Then work out your abs every 2 days, i have no idea what a ProAb King trainer thing is or whatever you call it but crunches and variations will do. Also for a six pack you have to do a lot of cardio, so keep freestyling lots and eat less.
As for Biceps you should work your Tricep too, its a larger muscle than the Bicep and you dont want your arm to look weird.
TW89: The reason why you cant do as many reps is probably one of these.
Not enough sleep/rest, make sure you have atleast 2/3 days between a workout. That way your muscles can recover and grow and you can lift more.
You aren't eating enough carbs and protein or enough food. Your body is an engine and if you want it to run smoothly you gotta give it lots of the right stuff. So get lots of protein and carbs, but i am sure you know this.
Or you are lifting too much, try using a lighter weight if you aren't consistent. It shouldnt matter too much aslong as you keep good form.
Hope this helped.
*Waits for elite and oLi to come and correct everything i just said*
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As for Biceps you should work your Tricep too, its a larger muscle than the Bicep and you dont want your arm to look weird.
dats true. mine look weird.
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Good advice Mac but you must know that his biceps wont grow if he does cardio to burn fat to get more visible abs (muscle growth requires calori + fat burn requires calori -)
Dan it seems you have only the abkingpro and some dumbells in your room (if I'm not mistaken) and there isn't much to do with that really if the weight on the dumbells are low
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TW89: The reason why you cant do as many reps is probably one of these.
Not enough sleep/rest, make sure you have atleast 2/3 days between a workout. That way your muscles can recover and grow and you can lift more.
You aren't eating enough carbs and protein or enough food. Your body is an engine and if you want it to run smoothly you gotta give it lots of the right stuff. So get lots of protein and carbs, but i am sure you know this.
Or you are lifting too much, try using a lighter weight if you aren't consistent. It shouldnt matter too much aslong as you keep good form.
Hope this helped.
Yeah man cheers. Probs a mix of all lol
And for Dan, I reckon you'd notice your abs earlier than you would your bi/triceps.
Like everyone once has a six pack, its jus makin it be seen/toned/defined. The key is to abs isto have little body fat on your stomach, then build your abs then you be able to see them.
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90kg (200 pounds) bench press personal best today hehe it was kinda easy. I will most likely be able to do 100 kg before celebrating my 1 year 1 anniversary. After that I gotta catch up to my dad who did 120 and after that I don't know my next goal
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90kg (200 pounds) bench press personal best today hehe it was kinda easy. I will most likely be able to do 100 kg before celebrating my 1 year 1 anniversary. After that I gotta catch up to my dad who did 120 and after that I don't know my next goal
how long have u been doing bench press?
congratz tho, u beat me.
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90kg (200 pounds) bench press personal best today hehe it was kinda easy. I will most likely be able to do 100 kg before celebrating my 1 year 1 anniversary. After that I gotta catch up to my dad who did 120 and after that I don't know my next goal
wow thats actually very good, if im not wrong you said you did 70 kg like five months ago or sumthin like that. in my case its kinda weird, i always need someone to look up to, in my case it would be my brother, idk but its kinda weird cause my brother keeps getting better so i get that feeling i wont get to his level. :dontknow: its hard to explain. im 16 and my bench press record is 70kg. my brother does 110-120kg and hes 17 so i gotta work hard if i wanna get to that level when im 17...
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90kg (200 pounds) bench press personal best today hehe it was kinda easy. I will most likely be able to do 100 kg before celebrating my 1 year 1 anniversary. After that I gotta catch up to my dad who did 120 and after that I don't know my next goal
how long have u been doing bench press?
congratz tho, u beat me.
8 months
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What a phoney
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVCpzSQTPc
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What a phoney
You mean to say you don't believe him?
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What a phoney
You mean to say you don't believe him?
For each time you post in this thread I start becoming more convinced you suffer a serious brain injury
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lol 2 mins in and i turned it off, talk about contradiction. Gift from god, i am a good person, exceptional strength. But on the other hand i dont show it to anyone and i cant work because i am too strong and busy getting women pregnant lol!
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What a phoney
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVCpzSQTPc
LMMFAO! wat a load of shit. he talks like hes superman. my ass he can lift a truck. drink butter? wat a dumbass. im suprised the interviewers didnt burst into laughter.
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What a phoney
You mean to say you don't believe him?
For each time you post in this thread I start becoming more convinced you suffer a serious brain injury
Haha your waaay too easy.
Obviously I was jokin, how could anyone watch that and believe it.
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Someone might find it interesting
http://www.cancerproject.org/media/news/cheapeats_findings.php
The other day i was actually talking to a friend of mine about making a quad burger, I always make triples but now I'm even more interested in making the quad
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4632991n
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That diner would be shut down after 5 minutes if it was in england. Unbelievable.
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those pictures were a bit disturbing.
im starting to do small weights for my biceps and i have an AbKingPro in my room that i use as well.. have been working out for around 30 mins a night for about 2 weeks
i eat fialry healthily with lots of fruits and i love pasta...
so how long shud it be before i start getting some noticeable biceps and or decent 6 pack?
lol dan, if you want big biceps and a six pack, you will probs just end up looking skinny. Here is my advice, I am sure others will agree with me.
Workout a body part a day: Arms, Chest, Back, Shoulders would be a good way to start. Your body will stay in proportion this way and you wont look like a twat.
Then work out your abs every 2 days, i have no idea what a ProAb King trainer thing is or whatever you call it but crunches and variations will do. Also for a six pack you have to do a lot of cardio, so keep freestyling lots and eat less.
As for Biceps you should work your Tricep too, its a larger muscle than the Bicep and you dont want your arm to look weird.
TW89: The reason why you cant do as many reps is probably one of these.
Not enough sleep/rest, make sure you have atleast 2/3 days between a workout. That way your muscles can recover and grow and you can lift more.
You aren't eating enough carbs and protein or enough food. Your body is an engine and if you want it to run smoothly you gotta give it lots of the right stuff. So get lots of protein and carbs, but i am sure you know this.
Or you are lifting too much, try using a lighter weight if you aren't consistent. It shouldnt matter too much aslong as you keep good form.
Hope this helped.
*Waits for elite and oLi to come and correct everything i just said*
only thing i would "correct" is to say you should work out muscles that compliment each other on the same days: back and biceps, chest and triceps, etc...one maintenance and one heavy.
every time it comes around again, switch one to maintenance and one heavy.
but everyone's body works differently..you have to find out what works best for you.
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Someone might find it interesting
http://www.cancerproject.org/media/news/cheapeats_findings.php
The other day i was actually talking to a friend of mine about making a quad burger, I always make triples but now I'm even more interested in making the quad
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4632991n
never eaten any of those things.
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Iverson on the topic of practice. Funnier than any stand up!
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you've never seen that? :saywhat: take a look at this one as well:
anyway, to keep this somewhat relevant
basketball has some absolute freaks of nature
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I've seen that one of Shaq.
It's pretty funny :cheers:
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I run daily(Have to get two miles/3.2 K under 10:10) and I work out every other day with leg weights and on the chin-up bar. I play soccer around an hour a day and freestyle for the other hour. :cheers:
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I run daily(Have to get two miles/3.2 K under 10:10) and I work out every other day with leg weights and on the chin-up bar. I play soccer around an hour a day and freestyle for the other hour. :cheers:
thats good!, ive run 10:20 on 3 km .. under 10:10 on 3.2 is very, very good!
how do you have time for friends and school ? :saywhat:
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I run daily(Have to get two miles/3.2 K under 10:10) and I work out every other day with leg weights and on the chin-up bar. I play soccer around an hour a day and freestyle for the other hour. :cheers:
thats good!, ive run 10:20 on 3 km .. under 10:10 on 3.2 is very, very good!
how do you have time for friends and school ? :saywhat:
I got to 13 minutes for 4 km a couple years back...but I doubt I could do 3k in 10...thats ridiculous :saywhat:
I've stopped doing pure running, though, and made my training centered around gameplay
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I run daily(Have to get two miles/3.2 K under 10:10) and I work out every other day with leg weights and on the chin-up bar. I play soccer around an hour a day and freestyle for the other hour. :cheers:
thats good!, ive run 10:20 on 3 km .. under 10:10 on 3.2 is very, very good!
how do you have time for friends and school ? :saywhat:
I got to 13 minutes for 4 km a couple years back...but I doubt I could do 3k in 10...thats ridiculous :saywhat:
I've stopped doing pure running, though, and made my training centered around gameplay
My social life is usually hanging around with friends right after school. I focus on my fitness, homework, soccer, and freestyle starting around 5:30-6:30.
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Anyone of you from the US going to the 09 Olympia?
I can't wait untill I move to the US I'll be going to every Mr O contest for sure
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You're moving to the U.S.? :saywhat:
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I can't wait untill I move to the US
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Ya, I'm definitely going to the Mr. O contest, being 100 pounds and all.
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Ya, I'm definitely going to the Mr. O contest, being 100 pounds and all.
Get real dude. I meant going as a spectator.
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I can't wait untill I move to the US
I think borg was wantin you to elaborate a bit lol
How come your moving? To live there for how long? etc.
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Oli, where do you think you'll be moving to?
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I can't wait untill I move to the US
I think borg was wantin you to elaborate a bit lol
How come your moving? To live there for how long? etc.
I'm glad someone caught on.
:cheers:
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Moving to Santa Barbara for studdies. 4 years + time. My hopes is to find someone to marry so that I can get a green card and stay.
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good luck wid dat :thumbsup:
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Moving to Santa Barbara for studdies. 4 years + time. My hopes is to find someone to marry so that I can get a green card and stay.
UCSB?
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Moving to Santa Barbara for studdies. 4 years + time. My hopes is to find someone to marry so that I can get a green card and stay.
UCSB?
college first :thumbsup:
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damn, santa barbara is going to be sweet for a high school student
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Jay Cutler
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Jus a Q.
Do you wanna look like that oli?
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wow hes nearly as big as me
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Jus a Q.
Do you wanna look like that oli?
Your question shall not be answered
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Jus a Q.
Do you wanna look like that oli?
Your question shall not be answered
Lmao
Well though you didnt answer my question with a yes/no, I take from it that you would honestly answer yes, but are too pussy to say that because you know you will cop a lotta flack (abuse) from people on here.
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Jus a Q.
Do you wanna look like that oli?
Your question shall not be answered
Lmao
Well though you didnt answer my question with a yes/no, I take from it that you would honestly answer yes, but are too pussy to say that because you know you will cop a lotta flack (abuse) from people on here.
Don't assume shit because you don't know shit, son.
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Hahaha. In my opinion, I think oLi has a good shot at it.
:biggrin:
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Nobody wants to write here I might aswell use it as my training diary.
+ 1 post a day to stay away from the gay, hey!
Today pecs and abdominals
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Write down what you eat each day so I can monitor your healthy living! :thumbsup:
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Write down what you eat each day so I can monitor your healthy living! :thumbsup:
Healthy living? There's no reason for me to be healthy. I'm of season.
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What? There's always reasons to be healthy, not just particular seasons.
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What? There's always reasons to be healthy, not just particular seasons.
If I wanted to be healthy why would I do bodybuilding? Make's no sense.
By being healthy I assume you mean to live a long and healthy life and I don't see how that goes together with the facts that testosterone decreases life lenght aswell as a high calory intake does.
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Well considering the title of this thread, I would assume the content would be the same?
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Well considering the title of this thread, I would assume the content would be the same?
Then thou hast assumed incorrectly!
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sorry for posting pics of toppless guys, just triyng to get my point across, what do you guys think? do you share my thoughts in huge muscles being nasty or do you like them?
In my opinion, I'd rather be a bit bulk, but not too much, and not enough to be defined as a bodybuilder. Beckham looks fine there and you can tell he's got muscle. That's exactly what I want.
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You serious with that "big muscle" picture? Some random amature who is 9 months out haha oh so sad.
sorry for posting pics of toppless guys, just triyng to get my point across, what do you guys think? do you share my thoughts in huge muscles being nasty or do you like them?
In my opinion, I'd rather be a bit bulk, but not too much, and not enough to be defined as a bodybuilder. Beckham looks fine there and you can tell he's got muscle. That's exactly what I want.
That's muscle? :saywhat: keep posting in this thread, it's actually very interesting to hear what people who have no muscle define as muscle :biggrin:
Now I'm actually doubting if I should post my pictures after I cut. If Beckham has muscles then I'm some sort of a freak.. Interesting.
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Excuse me, but do I know you? You've never ever seen me in real life, so I guess you wouldn't know if I "had muscle" or not. :hello:
I think Ferdinand would be a better example if we're using soccer players.
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To be picky, oli you shouldnt be postin b/buildin ish in this thread as it aint healthy.
But gotta agree wit oli (yes agree lol) D.B. hasnt got muscle, well abs maybe a bit, but not upperbody.
I wanna be lot stronger than Beckham, but nothin to the extent of that b/builder above.
cuz even criss angel is a bit big for being a footballer, unless your a defence or something, speed players are usualy slim, with your exceptions such as maradona...
Thats rubbish, yeah footballers often arent very strong upperbody wise, but if they were it would only help them, not hinder..
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To be picky, oli you shouldnt be postin b/buildin ish in this thread as it aint healthy.
But gotta agree wit oli (yes agree lol) D.B. hasnt got muscle, well abs maybe a bit, but not upperbody.
I wanna be lot stronger than Beckham, but nothin to the extent of that b/builder above.
cuz even criss angel is a bit big for being a footballer, unless your a defence or something, speed players are usualy slim, with your exceptions such as maradona...
Thats rubbish, yeah footballers often arent very strong upperbody wise, but if they were it would only help them, not hinder..
man, thats true in some cases, in others its the saying "the bigger you get, the slower you get", but as of upperbody, yeah, beckham looks like chiken man in that pic, but thats the body type i want, i already have arms like his, i just wanna get a full six pack, (i only have a 4 pack now)
Visible abdominals have nothing to do with muscles. It's a question of fat percentage and nothing else.
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To be picky, oli you shouldnt be postin b/buildin ish in this thread as it aint healthy.
But gotta agree wit oli (yes agree lol) D.B. hasnt got muscle, well abs maybe a bit, but not upperbody.
I wanna be lot stronger than Beckham, but nothin to the extent of that b/builder above.
cuz even criss angel is a bit big for being a footballer, unless your a defence or something, speed players are usualy slim, with your exceptions such as maradona...
Thats rubbish, yeah footballers often arent very strong upperbody wise, but if they were it would only help them, not hinder..
man, thats true in some cases, in others its the saying "the bigger you get, the slower you get", but as of upperbody, yeah, beckham looks like chiken man in that pic, but thats the body type i want, i already have arms like his, i just wanna get a full six pack, (i only have a 4 pack now)
Visible abdominals have nothing to do with muscles. It's a question of fat percentage and nothing else.
agreed, beckham doesnt really have muscle, just low body fat percentage.
David James is the most muscular footballer i seen, i think he looks pretty good for his age.
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_02/djames1702_468x486.jpg )
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Yeah theres no point doin endless amounts of sit ups if you're overweight thinkin that it'll give ya a six pack, which is what some people think.
Your better doin cardio to lose weight/body fat then workin on abs to tone/define them.
David James is the most muscular footballer i seen, i think he looks pretty good for his age.
Ade Akinbiyi is one that I can recall (no homo)
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39976000/jpg/_39976927_ade203.jpg)
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haha i remember him, yeah he is pretty ripped!
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I wanna be lot stronger than Beckham, but nothin to the extent of that b/builder above.
i'm sure david beckham is very strong for 6'0" 160lbs
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I wanna be lot stronger than Beckham, but nothin to the extent of that b/builder above.
i'm sure david beckham is very strong for 6'0" 160lbs
Is that sarcastic or not?
And I doubt hes 6ft.
He isnt strong, he wont be lifting any weights, jus doin fitness stuff.
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And I doubt hes 6ft.
that's what's listed everywhere, but i get where you're going w/that
He isnt strong, he wont be lifting any weights, jus doin fitness stuff.
nah, he probably does some weight training. he probably has some pretty decent amount of functional core strength.
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nah, he probably does some weight training. he probably has some pretty decent amount of functional core strength.
Hmm maybe does a bit yeah but not really lifting heavy weights, well you can even tell this from the pic.
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(http://not really lifting heavy weights, well you can even tell this from the pic.)
that doesn't mean that he's not strong. it just means that he can't lift 400 pounds over his chest
pro soccer players do a shitload of strength training though
e.g. :57
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Holly crap, that's a lot of weight. That was at least 4 45lbs weights on each side.
I recently got back into working out again. I was working out all the time in college but then lost interest. I'm tired of pulling muscles when I play footy now so I wanna get back in shape.
Does anyone have any recommendations on vitamins and proteins or other products? Any good lower body excecises?
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This is a good thread so want to bring it back to life.
Does anyone have any suggestions on healthy fast food? I don't bother cooking myself much so I need some healthy places to go and eat.
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Does anyone have any recommendations on vitamins and proteins or other products? Any good lower body excecises?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbsSeVr5NSImaybe one of these?
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i have learned this in life - eat a lot of fibre and go potty a lot :13:
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Any good lower body excecises?
the plank is an easy, bodyweight exercise to do to strengthen your lower back.
Does anyone have any suggestions on healthy fast food? I don't bother cooking myself much so I need some healthy places to go and eat.
wendy's chili. taco bell's fresco options. i've heard about chipotle, and that could be alright. most fast food restaurants, especially mcdonalds, have gotten better calorically in the past few years.
it's easier to cook for healthy food, and it's even easier to find good, local places.
i could give you some easy recipes/ideas, and elite could give you a few, as well, provided that he posts again before he has no time.
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subway is ok for freestyle, but stay away from fast food, its generally bad
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The whole good food bad food is extremely over exaggerated. And any discussion where you're just discussing diet advice or training advice without any look at the persons previous experiences, current situation and goals is nothing but pointless. It's like someone asking for advice on how to get somewhere in the city and you know the city but he doesn't tell you where in the city he wants to go and you have no idea where he is at or where he has been, how the hell are you gonna give that guy advice?
/Oli
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Shake Weight?! :cheesy:
neymars hair... what a brilliant username, Conner. Well done! :grin: Chipotle is brilliant by the way. I'm there a few times a week! :13:
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I'm not sure what kind of time you have, Adi, but if you're at Chipotle multiple times a week, you should try saving that money and making much better quality hispanic food at home. It always tastes better when you cook it.
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Yeah, that might be a good idea... quesadillas, tacos, enchilladas shouldn't be hard to make.
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Breakfast (around 8 AM) - Milkshake of banana, strawberry, 0% milk, and ground flax seeds.
Lunch (around 11:45) - chicken breast or fish, sauteed vegetables (garlic, onion, asparagus, brocolli, green bell pepper, zucchini)
Dinner (around 6 or 7) - Black bean soup with white rice
I'll usually snack on a sandwich or bread around 10 and go to bed around 12. This has been my routine for a few days, and hopefully for a few months. If I get hungry in between meals i'll drink a glass of milk or water. Keeping myself hydrated (at least 5 glasses of water a day), and i'm back into running, abs, and pull/pushups.
I weighed in at 175 the other day, and didn't like it. So, i'm going to get my six pack back. Hopefully I can drop to a good 160.
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Breakfast (around 8 AM) - Milkshake of banana, strawberry, 0% milk, and ground flax seeds.
What's that?
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skim milk
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It's such a pain eating healthy. I'll probably just continue eating moderately while working out more. I play plenty of soccer and basketball anyways.
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It's definitely a pain - an everyday task, and it takes up some time. But once you get used to it, it's excellent. My body fat is somewhere between 13-16 right now, so i'm destroying myself right now to get back to around 6-8%.
Giving up bread and cheese is :sign0065:
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ym_3r0Tsrs8/THb571IFrXI/AAAAAAAAAjE/vYHdPjwU5UA/s1600/irony.jpeg)
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