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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Chat => Topic started by: canibus on Aug 11, 2010, 04:57: AM
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anybody know?? :rolleyes:
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fx in SA i think.
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Skora's 149 htws I think
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Skora's 149 htws I think
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skora has done such a long combo in a competition vs. ars
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what about FX's video that came out long before RBSS?
150+ combo or something was it?
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
Nope, tatw isn't atw-co (nt) because in atw-co (ntt) you have to put your foot on the floor before beginning the co.
But anyway, it's really up to the first person to do the trick/combo to decide whether it's two moves or a single trick.
e.g the first person to do co-htw (nt) could have decided to give it a name after himself (let's say iatw) which would have made it a single trick.
However, instead he chose not to name it after himself and just keep it as the seperate tricks making co-htw (nt) two tricks.
I've just realised how long this explanation is but I hope you understand
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
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can you call skora's 149 htws a combo???
shouldn't a lower body combo be mixed with other moves to be called a combo...?
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
tatw counts fpr 1 trick in a combo.
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can you call skora's 149 htws a combo???
shouldn't a lower body combo be mixed with other moves to be called a combo...?
yes,I asked about mixes with basic tricks like atws,htws,hatws
i think fx combo from SA is the longest but mb anybody saw longer combo on some meeting or from some freestyle dvd???
thx for answers:D
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can you call skora's 149 htws a combo???
shouldn't a lower body combo be mixed with other moves to be called a combo...?
I think 149 htws is a combo because, for example, htw-htw is obviously a combo, which would make htw-htw-htw a combo which would make htw-htwh-htw-htw a combo and so on.
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can you call skora's 149 htws a combo???
shouldn't a lower body combo be mixed with other moves to be called a combo...?
yes,I asked about mixes with basic tricks like atws,htws,hatws
i think fx combo from SA is the longest but mb anybody saw longer combo on some meeting or from some freestyle dvd???
thx for answers:D
Seeing as that combo was first attempt it would be safe to assume he has done even longer stuff when training etc.
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
not longer but obviously harder so why should one care which is the longer combo?
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
Listen to the people that have more knowledge about freestyle than you do. TATW is not atw - co nt.
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
Listen to the people that have more knowledge about freestyle than you do. TATW is not atw - co nt.
so questions aren´t allowed here...
i mean it´s just strange that 19 htw are longer than tatw, only because touzani put his name on the trick
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 10 tatw/co-atw nt were longer than 19 htw?
so i don´t make the rules...
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
Listen to the people that have more knowledge about freestyle than you do. TATW is not atw - co nt.
so questions aren´t allowed here...
i mean it´s just strange that 19 htw are longer than tatw, only because touzani put his name on the trick
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 10 tatw/co-atw nt were longer than 19 htw?
so i don´t make the rules...
Your question was answerd. 75 tatws are not more than 149 htws.
Touzani didn't put his name.
Why are you still calling the movement of tatw, atw - co nt?
The reason tatw is called tatw is because of the fluid motion and not looking/being atw-co nt.
I made this video a long time ago to show people new to freestyle the difference. Assuming you know what tatw looks like..
vimeo.com/2054447[/vimeo]]atw-co(nt) (http://www.[vimeo)
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i have one question about a "freestyle rule":
is a combo out of 149 htws longer than a combo out of 75 tatws?
it´s just an example, but i mean 149 htws sound longer than 75 tatws, but 75 tatws are 150 moves (75 atws and 75 crossovers) so usually 75 tatws are longer than 149 htws?:D
No. 75 tatws is 75 tatws and not a single atw or crossover
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 75 tatw (which would be 75 atw-co (nt) )were longer than 149 htw?
find someone who can do 75 tatw and then ask again. does it really matter if 75 tatw are a longer combo than 149 htw, when its obvious that 75 tatw are much harder to do??
no but it was just a question and i said 75 tatw were just an example, i could also say are 10 tatws longer than 19 htws
Listen to the people that have more knowledge about freestyle than you do. TATW is not atw - co nt.
so questions aren´t allowed here...
i mean it´s just strange that 19 htw are longer than tatw, only because touzani put his name on the trick
so if touzani wouldn´t put his name on the trick, 10 tatw/co-atw nt were longer than 19 htw?
so i don´t make the rules...
Your question was answerd. 75 tatws are not more than 149 htws.
Touzani didn't put his name.
Why are you still calling the movement of tatw, atw - co nt?
The reason tatw is called tatw is because of the fluid motion and not looking/being atw-co nt.
I made this video a long time ago to show people new to freestyle the difference. Assuming you know what tatw looks like..
vimeo.com/2054447[/vimeo]]atw-co(nt)[/url]
no i don´t call it atw-co (nt), it´s tatw and i just wanted to make it clearlier
the principle of the trick in ur video and tatw is the same, but tatw looks much better, because the movement is faster (http://www.[vimeo)
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You think they look the same? :embarrassed:
Maybe when I did it, it wasn't clear. Look for a video by Szymo called training. At 1:30, he does a clear atw - co nt -combo.
Can I ask, can you do tatw AND atw-co nt?
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should the longest combe be about the time or the amount of moves??
@ L_I_S nice vid never saw anyone do that move before :grin:
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palle is famous for tatw amatw nt, not for (atw co nt - htw co nt) nt..
live with the convention :)
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You think they look the same? :embarrassed:
Maybe when I did it, it wasn't clear. Look for a video by Szymo called training. At 1:30, he does a clear atw - co nt -combo.
Can I ask, can you do tatw AND atw-co nt?
what???
i said the PRINCIPLE is the same, but it looks VERY different, tatw looks better and faster
btw of course i can do tatw but i have never tried atw-co (nt) because i don´t really need it if i can do tatw
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^ The principle isn't really the same because in tatw you're combining atw and co into one movement. Doing just atw and co, this IS slower because they are 2 different tricks and you have more time to prepare for co after getting the touch on the atw.
Sorry if im missunderstanding you.
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^ The principle isn't really the same because in tatw you're combining atw and co into one movement. Doing just atw and co, this IS slower because they are 2 different tricks and you have more time to prepare for co after getting the touch on the atw.
Sorry if im missunderstanding you.
yea the difference is, that tatw is one movement and the foot u do the tatw with touches the ground after the co part and not after the atw and when ur doing atw - co (nt) ur foot touches the ground after the atw
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umm I think that the principle is the same because its atw-co nt, just that tatw is atw-co nt no ground touch, and atw-co (normal way) is with a ground touch.
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Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
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umm I think that the principle is the same because its atw-co nt, just that tatw is atw-co nt no ground touch, and atw-co (normal way) is with a ground touch.
Therefore:
1+1=2 and 1+1=20 [except it has a 0 at the end]
No, it doesn't work like that.
Do both and you will feel and tell the difference and recognize that they are not the same.
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this is one fucking useless discussion.
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Sry, but I think Mr. Cristiano's got some point. Where is exactly the difference between TATW and (ATW-Crossover)nt? I think it should be called TATW, although the harder version also looks lame. Some people could've get example of it and we will have sh!tload of names of tricks like K3EATW, Silas Verdan Crossover etc. :72:
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yeah it just depends on who watches your vid some people see something and think : hey new trick you should give it a name!
and others will think : combo's combo's combo's
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yeah it just depends on who watches your vid some people see something and think : hey new trick you should give it a name!
and others will think : combo's combo's combo's
And the others are usually smarter :sign0066: :grin:
There is really lots of names we don't need and when someone lands a trick that really deserves a name, many poeple say that we already have too many tricks (e.g. Luki ATM)
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
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Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
how is fxatw pointless? the trick is of its own kind and people barely do it but when they do. i've seen azun do it and it looks really good.
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SO MANY FUCKING NOOBS THESE DAYS. I'm not even going to bother to try to help the stubourn any more.
Where's my angry emoticon at?
There it is, he's saying 'you arrrrrrrrre noob' > :96:
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
again.
Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
i have NEVER said co-atw nt and tatw are the same and no i don´t think patw is a combo but if palle wouldn´t give the trick his name it would surly be called 3 atw nt, as MANY PEOPLE CALL IT
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
again.
Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
MANY PEOPLE CALL IT
examples? you really think too much boy, any topic you post in gets messed up
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:PDT_Armataz_01_37:
what a stupid guys are there...;( plz let them go they own way ... just ban...
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
again.
Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
MANY PEOPLE CALL IT
examples? you really think too much boy, any topic you post in gets messed up
yea honestly i think too much, i know this...
but if i have questions, i just want them to be answered, nothing else;)
i don´t have examples now, but as i have seen many people think palle´s patw touched the ground and that it was a fake, so they call it 3 atw (nt)
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yeah i think there are many useless tricks, like fxatw and so on
honestly, nobody else does them
to get back to my point, now i also think that the second part of tatw is not really crossover, because atw and crossover are ONE movement
but tatw and co-atw nt are not THAT different, tatw is just one movement
btw MANY people say tatw is atw-co (nt), look for tatw videos and many people comment "it´s atw-co (nt)"
again.
Ronaldo fss, can you just get it? Tatw is tatw and it isn't co atw no touch? It isnt he same move and to get your question answered again, no 10 tatws is NOT a longer combo then 11 htw. And dont replay "but tatw is atw co nt so it would be more then the htws" because it isn't just get it you stupid retard.
And no, it isn't strange.
Do you think patw is a combo aswell?
MANY PEOPLE CALL IT
examples? you really think too much boy, any topic you post in gets messed up
yea honestly i think too much, i know this...
but if i have questions, i just want them to be answered, nothing else;)
i don´t have examples now, but as i have seen many people think palle´s patw touched the ground and that it was a fake, so they call it 3 atw (nt)
:wtf:
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@ 10RonaldoC i dont really gewt your pouint on that one
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i kinda see what 10ronaldoc is saying, if touzani didnt put his name on the trick then yes 75-tatw would be a longer combo the 149htws cause it would be 75atw-75co (im not writing out the entire thing) but seeing as no one has ever done 75 tatw, its still just an example
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i kinda see what 10ronaldoc is saying, if touzani didnt put his name on the trick then yes 75-tatw would be a longer combo the 149htws cause it would be 75atw-75co (im not writing out the entire thing) but seeing as no one has ever done 75 tatw, its still just an example
but the motion of tatw is so flawless that it has to be a single trick so if touzani didnt put his name on it someone else would have put a name on it. i dunno why we have to discuss such a stupid topic?
ronaldo halt jetz die schnauze du nervst barbarisch. geh lieber trainiern da haste mehr von!
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i kinda see what 10ronaldoc is saying, if touzani didnt put his name on the trick then yes 75-tatw would be a longer combo the 149htws cause it would be 75atw-75co (im not writing out the entire thing) but seeing as no one has ever done 75 tatw, its still just an example
but the motion of tatw is so flawless that it has to be a single trick so if touzani didnt put his name on it someone else would have put a name on it. i dunno why we have to discuss such a stupid topic?
ronaldo halt jetz die schnauze du nervst barbarisch. geh lieber trainiern da haste mehr von!
ich halt mich hier doch schon lange raus;)
naja nur noch nebenbei du hast gesagt wenn touzani den trick nicht nach sich benannt hätte, dürfte ihn ein anderer , der ihn dann ja als 2. gemacht hätte, nach sich benennen, das dürfte man dann aber nicht, wäre ja genauso als ob ich jetz plötzlich das patent für das handy erwerben will
egal für mich ist die diskussion jedenfalls erledigt, meiner meinung nach sind bei meinungen vertretbar, da tatw zum einen atw und co ineinander als eine bewegung vereint und zum anderen es immer noch 2 verschiedene tricks sind...
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the title of the topic was interesting, but the debate went on a wrong track imo
i think fx or skora have the longest combos, also palle could come near
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yea this topic was made to find out the longest lower combo and not to argue
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i kinda see what 10ronaldoc is saying, if touzani didnt put his name on the trick then yes 75-tatw would be a longer combo the 149htws cause it would be 75atw-75co (im not writing out the entire thing) but seeing as no one has ever done 75 tatw, its still just an example
but the motion of tatw is so flawless that it has to be a single trick so if touzani didnt put his name on it someone else would have put a name on it. i dunno why we have to discuss such a stupid topic?
ronaldo halt jetz die schnauze du nervst barbarisch. geh lieber trainiern da haste mehr von!
ich halt mich hier doch schon lange raus;)
naja nur noch nebenbei du hast gesagt wenn touzani den trick nicht nach sich benannt hätte, dürfte ihn ein anderer , der ihn dann ja als 2. gemacht hätte, nach sich benennen, das dürfte man dann aber nicht, wäre ja genauso als ob ich jetz plötzlich das patent für das handy erwerben will
egal für mich ist die diskussion jedenfalls erledigt, meiner meinung nach sind bei meinungen vertretbar, da tatw zum einen atw und co ineinander als eine bewegung vereint und zum anderen es immer noch 2 verschiedene tricks sind...
was hast du an halt die schnauze net verstanden du kleiner klugscheißer?
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i kinda see what 10ronaldoc is saying, if touzani didnt put his name on the trick then yes 75-tatw would be a longer combo the 149htws cause it would be 75atw-75co (im not writing out the entire thing) but seeing as no one has ever done 75 tatw, its still just an example
but the motion of tatw is so flawless that it has to be a single trick so if touzani didnt put his name on it someone else would have put a name on it. i dunno why we have to discuss such a stupid topic?
ronaldo halt jetz die schnauze du nervst barbarisch. geh lieber trainiern da haste mehr von!
ich halt mich hier doch schon lange raus;)
naja nur noch nebenbei du hast gesagt wenn touzani den trick nicht nach sich benannt hätte, dürfte ihn ein anderer , der ihn dann ja als 2. gemacht hätte, nach sich benennen, das dürfte man dann aber nicht, wäre ja genauso als ob ich jetz plötzlich das patent für das handy erwerben will
egal für mich ist die diskussion jedenfalls erledigt, meiner meinung nach sind bei meinungen vertretbar, da tatw zum einen atw und co ineinander als eine bewegung vereint und zum anderen es immer noch 2 verschiedene tricks sind...
was hast du an halt die schnauze net verstanden du kleiner klugscheißer?
hallo reg dich mal ab, dass is nurn freestyle forum und du bist nicht gezwungen meine posts zu lesen
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if anyone has seen this vid Curtis and Keller - Freestyle Football (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9tbWtymlYY#ws) at 0:03 is an example of the movement that would require an atw before it to be a tatw. L_I_S's example of atw-co nt is clearly different. and the longest combo is probably between fx's s.a. combo and skoras 149 htws.. never bothered counting
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thanks for the link ning, sure my vid just got 1000000 more hits :D
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np keller :You_Rock_Emoticon: