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Title: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 12:00: AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/7594758

These clowns from Manchester United don't know when to quit.  He's just jeleous about the Champions League games last year and what Kaka did to them.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 23, 2007, 12:22: AM
Who the fuck is Queiroz, his opinion dose not matter.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 23, 2007, 12:35: AM
someone dropped there dummy.

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg)

im just hoping kaka will do the same to united as they did last season.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 02:03: AM
Who the fuck is Queiroz, his opinion dose not matter.

Carlos queiroz is the assistant manager of man u  ;)
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 02:32: AM
He wasn't really asking...
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 23, 2007, 05:32: AM
Who the fuck is Queiroz, his opinion dose not matter.

Carlos queiroz is the assistant manager of man u  ;)
Yeah, it's rhetorical. ;)
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: oLi on Dec 23, 2007, 07:40: AM
That might've been the dumbest thing I've heard all year
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 09:14: AM
Who the fuck is Queiroz, his opinion dose not matter.

Carlos queiroz is the assistant manager of man u  ;)
Yeah, it's rhetorical. ;)

LOL, my bad i get it he cant do nothing i agree ;)
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 23, 2007, 09:20: AM
I don't agree, Carlos Queiroz is a smart guy. He found Nani, Anderson, Ronaldo and all these youngsters, he's the best scout out there.. what he said about Ronaldo he was maybe exaggerating a little. And remember, Queiroz is Portuguese, so he may be favouring Ronaldo.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: oLi on Dec 23, 2007, 09:29: AM
I don't agree, Carlos Queiroz is a smart guy. He found Nani, Anderson, Ronaldo and all these youngsters, he's the best scout out there.. what he said about Ronaldo he was maybe exaggerating a little. And remember, Queiroz is Portuguese, so he may be favouring Ronaldo.
A little? Hahahahahha! It's the biggest joke this year
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 09:30: AM
I don't agree, Carlos Queiroz is a smart guy. He found Nani, Anderson, Ronaldo and all these youngsters, he's the best scout out there.. what he said about Ronaldo he was maybe exaggerating a little. And remember, Queiroz is Portuguese, so he may be favouring Ronaldo.

Just like arsene wenger eh?  ^-^
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 23, 2007, 09:32: AM
I don't agree, Carlos Queiroz is a smart guy. He found Nani, Anderson, Ronaldo and all these youngsters, he's the best scout out there.. what he said about Ronaldo he was maybe exaggerating a little. And remember, Queiroz is Portuguese, so he may be favouring Ronaldo.

Just like arsene wenger eh?  ^-^
I'm glad you understand my theory.

Ronaldo and Kaka are two different players though.

Kaka likes to run the ball, while Ronaldo can run the ball, but prefers to shoot from far distances.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 23, 2007, 01:57: PM
Like him or not, Ronaldo has 16 goals before Christmas while missing a few games (no, that does not make him better than Kaka, but yes, you could possibly see where Carlos Queiroz is coming from). 
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: moby on Dec 23, 2007, 02:18: PM
ok boys. borg and yussaf lets get something right. kaka is better then c.ronaldo. kaka can run better then c.ronaldo. kaka passes better then c.ronaldo. kaka shots better then c.ronaldo. kaka is simply better then c.ronaldo. tell me who won world player of the year
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 05:59: PM
Like him or not, Ronaldo has 16 goals before Christmas while missing a few games (no, that does not make him better than Kaka, but yes, you could possibly see where Carlos Queiroz is coming from). 

Ronaldo is fucking good, i'm not doubting that. But this is just an obviously biased comment. I know he is trying to support and encourage his player, but that is not the way to go about it.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 23, 2007, 06:10: PM
I can see where he's coming from though.  When a winger leads the EPL and CL (tie) in goals, I just don't know what the fuck to think about it.  He has equaled the goal tallies of Carlos Tevez and Wayne Rooney combined.  It was pretty stupid to throw Kaka in it, but Ronaldo is out of this world.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 06:16: PM
It is true, however he is only one ahead of Adebayor in premier league goals. I actually find the World Player of the year this year to be as accurate as possible: Kaka, Messi, Ronaldo.
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Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 23, 2007, 06:22: PM
Ronaldo has only played in 13 PL games. 
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 23, 2007, 06:40: PM
Adebayor has featured in 16 i think. Dont htink he has any penalties either, Ronaldo has 2 or 3 i'd imagine.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 23, 2007, 06:49: PM
He had at least one against Derby.  I know Ronaldo had one this weekend.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 23, 2007, 07:34: PM
ok boys. borg and yussaf lets get something right. kaka is better then c.ronaldo. kaka can run better then c.ronaldo. kaka passes better then c.ronaldo. kaka shots better then c.ronaldo. kaka is simply better then c.ronaldo. tell me who won world player of the year

Yes it was kaka Moby, and i do agree that Kaka is a better allrounder then Ronaldo no doubt, but you can see Ronaldo he is still young and getting more and more experience so when hes about 25 my bet is he will play better then Kaka  ^-^
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 23, 2007, 11:37: PM
Ronaldo was molested as a child by Kaka.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 03:15: AM
Like him or not, Ronaldo has 16 goals before Christmas while missing a few games (no, that does not make him better than Kaka, but yes, you could possibly see where Carlos Queiroz is coming from). 

Ronaldo is fucking good, i'm not doubting that. But this is just an obviously biased comment. I know he is trying to support and encourage his player, but that is not the way to go about it.
Bryan is being honest, he's not saying Ronaldo sucks because he hates Ronaldo, which some of you always do.

Kaka can run the ball, but can he take free-kicks or long shots like Ronaldo can? Ronaldo can run the ball just like Kaka can, but Kaka is probably better at it.. they are two different style players, it's hard to compare.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 24, 2007, 03:55: AM
Like him or not, Ronaldo has 16 goals before Christmas while missing a few games (no, that does not make him better than Kaka, but yes, you could possibly see where Carlos Queiroz is coming from). 

Ronaldo is fucking good, i'm not doubting that. But this is just an obviously biased comment. I know he is trying to support and encourage his player, but that is not the way to go about it.
he's not saying Ronaldo sucks because he hates Ronaldo, which some of you always do.

Kick back esse, its all in good fun.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 24, 2007, 04:02: AM
Well, you dont need evidence to show ur thoughts, everybody got their own opinion, and mine is Ronaldo is better.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 04:03: AM
Same here Yusaf,

Kaka is better at running..
Ronaldo is better at everything else, .. and Ronaldo had major dekes when he first came to United.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 24, 2007, 04:06: AM
Same here Yusaf,

Kaka is better at running..
Ronaldo is better at everything else, .. and Ronaldo had major dekes when he first came to United.

Yep Borg, i would say the exact same thing, even if i wernt a man united fan.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 24, 2007, 12:55: PM
I'll admit Ronaldo is better than Kaka when you find me a Ronaldo goal better than the one at 1:40 in this video.



Honestly, i can't say i remember Ronaldo leaving three defenders that fucked up and then going on to finish in the manner than Kaka has done.  Again, Ronaldo is one of the top players in the world. He's just not better than Kaka.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 24, 2007, 01:05: PM
You can't determine who's better by one goal, and like I said, Kaka is better at running.

The YOUNG Ronaldo:

Also, Ronaldo was criticized a lot because of his dribbles and stuff, Kaka can do whatever he wants in Italy because people are used to it there, .. in England everyone is used to long balls remember,.. so people get frustrated with him, and my proof is the video above, when he was younger he did whatever he wanted, dribbles, runs, tricks, but now he has to watch what he does cause Sir Al and the media is on him.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 24, 2007, 04:30: PM
Oh man, thats practically a video of him against Bolton....

I've seen Kaka do it against Argentina, Lyon, Inter, Liverpool, and obviously Manchester United. But see in those games there was something at stake. CL final 05, CL Final 07, Confederations Cup 05, Local Derbies, Champions League Knock-Out Round, Club World Cup even. He's just on another level, of performing when it counts and you know it. I've seen Ronaldo shake the shit out of 5 Wigan players at once. It is class, but it is not what defines the best player in the world. It's those moments you can produce that brings your team to glory, and/or close to it. When Liverpool plays United, to be completely unbiased and fair, Ronaldo is not the menace he usually is, and you know this. And you can see why Messi placed higher than him, with unbelievable goals like vs Getafe, or even in the u21 World Cup where he made his name clear, or his hattrick vs Madrid last year. These are the kinds of things, to me, that makes a player eligible. Not some stepovers vs Bolton and Aston Villa.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 24, 2007, 04:43: PM
That's a pretty selective memory you have there.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 24, 2007, 05:13: PM
Man i told ya'll, yo te dije, that i'm a fuckin beast yo.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 25, 2007, 02:52: AM
Kaka is better on the fact that he can show up to a gigantic game and take control alone, it takes a great player to do that.

I haven't seen Ronaldo take control of a big game FA cup final against Chelsea, Semi Final against AC last year, game against Arsenal at the Emarites, usually important games against Chelsea and Arsenal in the PL and all the other times United needed a win but instead got dropped out of the CL. Ronaldo will no doubt score 2 goals ever time he faces Wigan or Derby but thats not when his team need him most. 

Where as Kaka has saved Milan from the brink of elimination countless times. Ronaldo is usually shut down in crucial games.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: oLi on Dec 25, 2007, 03:28: AM
Kaka is better on the fact that he can show up to a gigantic game and take control alone, it takes a great player to do that.

I haven't seen Ronaldo take control of a big game FA cup final against Chelsea, Semi Final against AC last year, game against Arsenal at the Emarites, usually important games against Chelsea and Arsenal in the PL and all the other times United needed a win but instead got dropped out of the CL. Ronaldo will no doubt score 2 goals ever time he faces Wigan or Derby but thats not when his team need him most. 

Where as Kaka has saved Milan from the brink of elimination countless times. Ronaldo is usually shut down in crucial games.
That post was brilliant. Karma for you
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 12:48: AM
Okay, I agree with you on those points.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 26, 2007, 01:46: AM
Ronaldo has been carrying United this year.  He's far more effective this year than he has been in the past.  He's improving in every aspect as a player.  He's no longer a "two goals versus Wigan and Derby" player.  His "big game performances" will further improve with age.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 01:51: AM
Ronaldo just scored a screamer free-kick which I doubt Kaka could ever score.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 26, 2007, 01:51: AM
Stop being such a child.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 01:53: AM
I'm not, I'm just proving my point in how Kaka and Ronaldo have different styles and it's hard to say who's better.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 26, 2007, 01:59: AM
Don't say things like that. I could point out a few things that I've never seen Ronaldo do, and probably never will see him do.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 02:01: AM
Obviously, that's what I mean by them being different, but Ronaldo's tricks when he was younger were just magnificent, you can't doubt that.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 26, 2007, 02:01: AM
When have I ever doubted Ronaldo's skill?
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: a;sdlfkjas;df on Dec 26, 2007, 02:03: AM
1.  He's still young Ronaldo
2.  He's twice the player now than he was when he came to United
3.  He still has "tricks"
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 26, 2007, 02:04: AM
That's true I guess, he just doesn't do it as much as he use to.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 26, 2007, 02:07: AM
He knows how much it is needed. It is no good to over do it anymore.
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Post by: Tito on Dec 26, 2007, 07:59: PM
Ronaldo just scored a screamer free-kick which I doubt Kaka could ever score.
Stop being such a child.
typical Borg
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: moby on Dec 27, 2007, 06:03: PM
I'm not, I'm just proving my point in how Kaka and Ronaldo have different styles and it's hard to say who's better.

dont you get tired borg. kaka is better then c god damn ronaldo
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Tito on Dec 28, 2007, 07:50: PM
I'm not, I'm just proving my point in how Kaka and Ronaldo have different styles and it's hard to say who's better.

dont you get tired borg. kaka is better then c god damn ronaldo
its better written as C 'god damn' Ronaldo cuz the first time i read your post i though you where possessed
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: moby on Dec 28, 2007, 10:14: PM
hahahaha.  :stupid:
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 29, 2007, 04:05: AM
That's true I guess, he just doesn't do it as much as he use to.

He passes much more then ages ago, cause hes more experienced, Kaka is better right now but we'll see if Ronaldo can do excellent in big games just as Melbourne pointed out :bowdown:.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 29, 2007, 04:09: AM
Ronaldo missed a penalty today, Kaka would have scored that penalty with his eyes closed and his feet tied up.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 29, 2007, 06:34: AM
Can Kaka score a beautiful header like Ronaldo did?

Everyone misses;
feature=related

And wow, .. his first miss in how long?
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 29, 2007, 06:52: AM
Jaja this is funny... but hey, Kaka hit the frame.

feature=related

Case closed.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 29, 2007, 06:54: AM
Kaka runs the ball from coast to coast and scores.

That's his specialty, where as Ronaldo can do all of that stuff.. (the running isn't as good as Kaka, but it's good.)
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 29, 2007, 06:57: AM
Just chill Borg. I've seen Kaka score goals (from open play) much better than Ronaldo. Ronaldo is amazing, 18 goals in one half of a season, i'm not taking it away from him. And yes, his freekicks are amazing, but if that were the case, then Juninho is the best player in the world! (Juninho is the best freekick taker though, you must admit). Kaka shows up vs Argentina and many other big name teams, and it will take more than freekicks vs Sunderland and stepovers vs Bolton to be the best in the world.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: manutd. on Dec 29, 2007, 07:01: AM
Fair point, Kaka is the best right now (debate-able); but time will tell my friend.  ;)

(Juninho is the best freekick taker though, you must admit).
You're scaring me.. (we're facing him in the CL).
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: ^_^ on Dec 29, 2007, 07:01: AM
The truth hurts.
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Chunkchenko on Dec 29, 2007, 07:55: AM
Fair point, Kaka is the best right now (debate-able); but time will tell my friend.  ;)

(Juninho is the best freekick taker though, you must admit).
You're scaring me.. (we're facing him in the CL).

be scared....

Jaja this is funny... but hey, Kaka hit the frame.

feature=related

Case closed.

 :bowdown:

just imagine when him and pato play along side, makes me hard just from thinking about it  :3some:
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Megakid on Dec 30, 2007, 02:02: AM
Quote
Borg on December 29, 2007, 01:01:04 PM
Fair point, Kaka is the best right now (debate-able); but time will tell my friend.  Wink

Quote from: ELITE on December 29, 2007, 12:57:45 PM
(Juninho is the best freekick taker though, you must admit).
You're scaring me.. (we're facing him in the CL).

be scared....



O no vandersar must be on his frontfoot the whole game :'(

Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: Tito on Dec 30, 2007, 05:50: PM
that one stuffed up post
Lyon will beat man u in the first leg but will lose in the second and get knocked out by away goals 
Title: Re: "Ronaldo Better than Kaka"
Post by: cigar omar on Dec 30, 2007, 06:26: PM
Pirlo is a little underrated, he is top 3 free kick takers.