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Freestyle Soccer Forum => Freestyle Competitions => Old Competitions & Meetings => Topic started by: oLi on Jul 14, 2009, 12:48: AM
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Please dont discuss the battle in their video topics, take the discussion here.
Thanks.
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Heh, what i can say - the best final in online competitions ever ;) For me Skora and Arthur deserved to win in this tournament more than any other competitors - so its nice that they are both in the final.. :)
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Heh, what i can say - the best final in online competitions ever ;) For me Skora and Arthur deserved to win in this tournament more than any other competitors - so its nice that they are both in the final.. :)
yes ure right, but my vote goes to skora cuz he have the best lower in the world...!!!!! uppers are awesome to, awesome like arthur uppers... sitts arthur is a "little" beter, so i decide vote to skora.... and love the akkas at the final... xD peace
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Both were amazing!!!But Skora is Skora,noone beats him :thumbsup:
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Both were amazing!!!But Skora is Skora,noone beats him :thumbsup:
now thats a fair argument :thumbsup:
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The arguments are certain. Many people will argue by Arthur others by Skora.
But for many people ARTHUR WINS !!!.
And this situation already have happened in other competitions as Jaktorów 2009 with MichRyc and others.
I think it's a merit of Skora, the judges have the decisión.
Arthur who was an unknown before the competition disputes with Skora of equal to equal and this is a great merit.
Congratulations to both.
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The arguments are certain. Many people will argue by Arthur others by Skora.
But for many people ARTHUR WINS !!!.
And this situation already have happened in other competitions as Jaktorów 2009 with MichRyc and others.
I think it's a merit of Skora, the judges have the decisión.
Arthur who was an unknown before the competition disputes with Skora of equal to equal and this is a great merit.
Congratulations to both.
In the beginning you work on authority, and then authority work on
you)))) :rolleyes:
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Both were amazing!!!But Skora is Skora,noone beats him :thumbsup:
when people have an attitude like this, its pointless even having a competition (youre not the only worshipper by any means, just an example)
Both videos were sick,
its definetaly the best Skora video ever IMO (maybe the creative one is 2nd best)
Since the new year Skora has improved huuuuugely in uppers, such a fast improvement, and of course the new shit world record, what the fuck.....
Furthermore Arthur's video was insane as well, over-edited but his style is in my opinion better than Skora, obviously his lowers arent to Skoras level, but in my opinion he was better in both upper and sits, and when i take into consideration the style i voted for Arthur, but both were top-class finalists so well done!
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Arthur takes it easily.
Skora did great, though he has worked on his sitdowns, and uppers.
Arthur has about the same skill for each style uppers, lowers, and sitdowns.
Skora is a beast at lowers, no doubt about that.
Congrats for both reaching the final.
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both competitors done geat job but skora made a really unseen video and some sick stuff that world never seen before....so
SKORA :thumbsup:
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Skora, has the best lower in the world,
but in my opinion Arthur was better in sits and uppers!
He is one of the best allarounders,
Was an epic battle! :bowdown:
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i liked both videos very much. you both did well. but i chose arthur. The better freestyler is the one who can show extraordinary talent in all areas not just one. and i saw that arthur did have that. he is truly amazing. i have started freestyle before he did and he is way better than me i can tell you that. thats just amazing. I love the fact that his moves like his crossover moves and latw moves are clean meaning he goes around the ball and does the crossover part in crossover moves and makes it look stylish. hardcore moves with style are absolutely lovely. and the creativity he showed with sits and upper were extraordinary. and again he did em with style. He is indeed one of the best alround freestylers in the world. Thats why I had to choose him. Skora did very well too but i wish he would take time for his style to make his moves look perfect specially with his lowers. I mean he can do moves no one on here can do but i just with he would take the time to improve his style a little more on them and i KNOW he more than capable and can do that. If skora can do these impossible moves i now he can make a perfect style is he does. and i know he can. I would like to see more than just ahmatws ahtatws amatws alatws skora atws in his hard combos. I dont know they are just starting to bore me. I mean i get that hes so good at doing them but i just want to see something new. something new thats crazy. and again i know skora can do it cus hes a beast. His sitdowns were alright but not as good as arthurs and style. same with uppers. so thats what i have to say about it. if you dont like oh well its my opinion and if you have to say something about it pm me. hit me up. i dont want arguing to appear on this topic. thanks :cheers:
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skora i much better than arthur !!!!! skora 2 arthur ! skora ! what dyou see???? skora perfect style lower itd..
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skora i much better than arthur !!!!! skora 2 arthur ! skora ! what dyou see???? skora perfect style lower itd..
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Skora doesn't have the perfect style at lowers.
Skora did much better than Arthur, at lowers yes, not at uppers and sitdowns.
Respect for Skora :thumbsup:, but I gotta say that Arthur is just the most talented freestyler at all fields. His lowers may be way less than Skora's, but at sitdowns and uppers, I've gotta say that Arthur won over Skora.
Take into consideration style, and the practice time, I think Arthur deserve to win this competition.
Just my opinion. :thumbsup:
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
Totally Agree! :thumbsup:
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umm yeah i have to totally agree with sputnik
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arthur wins in style -it is just yourSubjectiv opinion
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arthur wins in uppers -look above
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arthur wins in sits -true+
arthur wins in creativity and allround vid- lol, are you kidding?you have alreidy started judging allround.so that point is one big mistake. As I see you are just trying to give point for arthur, again ,
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skora wins in lower complexity -true
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :) -bullshit, Skóra has as much haters as worshipers.
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
conclusion- you are not objectiv, and you try to show that Arthur was way better , which is obviosly stupid,the both were at equal level. Poeple have own opinion. This competition is absolutly subjectiv, coz it depends on personal feelings.For me they both arewinners, they have got sucha a heavenly level, that words "you are amazing" can be taken as a sign of disrespectfull, coz they are way better than amazin
roll on the next comp please! :D
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Equabol made a perfect technical analysis of the battle and why has his vote for Arthur.
Sputnik of a subjective thing made an objetive analysis resulting 4-2 for Arthur, counting popularity to Skora.
People that argue to Skora only write "Skora is better than Arthur", "Skora is Skora" and repeat similar things.
But objetively as shown as Ecuabol and Sputnik none, why ? Because they don't have arguments ?.
I think this battle was a confronting of the force represented by Skora versus criativity and style represented by Arthur.
Football Freestyle is lower, upper, sitdown, ground, style and mainly criativity.
And as Sputnik point out Arthur was better than Skora.
I agree with Ecuabol and Sputnik.
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours, Skora wins in sit downs and upper, in previous videos Arthur was obviously a lot better in both but in these final videos which we are discussing in my honest and non partial opinion, Skora wins. That's not even why I voted for Skora because I didn't go through it like "who was better at what", I voted for the guy with the most skill and obviously Skora is miles ahead. Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora. And well, sitdowns and upper, just look how much Skora improved the past months, it just shows how far behind uppers and sits are compared to the evolution of lower when the best guy in lower starts to practice upper and does top head, back head, perfect side heads etc in just a couple of months.
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours, Skora wins in sit downs and upper, in previous videos Arthur was obviously a lot better in both but in these final videos which we are discussing in my honest and non partial opinion, Skora wins. That's not even why I voted for Skora because I didn't go through it like "who was better at what", I voted for the guy with the most skill and obviously Skora is miles ahead. Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora. And well, sitdowns and upper, just look how much Skora improved the past months, it just shows how far behind uppers and sits are compared to the evolution of lower when the best guy in lower starts to practice upper and does top head, back head, perfect side heads etc in just a couple of months.
So you voted on him because he improved rapidly on uppers and sitdowns?
I mean that's what you just said.
Far out i mean arthur might have practiced uppers and sitdowns before on more consistantly level, shall we critize how long?
Furthermore both vids were great, though perhaps the more enjoyable vid might now win.
:thumbsup:
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arthur wins in style -it is just yourSubjectiv opinion
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arthur wins in uppers -look above
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arthur wins in sits -true+
arthur wins in creativity and allround vid- lol, are you kidding?you have alreidy started judging allround.so that point is one big mistake. As I see you are just trying to give point for arthur, again ,
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skora wins in lower complexity -true
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :) -bullshit, Skóra has as much haters as worshipers.
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
conclusion- you are not objectiv, and you try to show that Arthur was way better , which is obviosly stupid,the both were at equal level. Poeple have own opinion. This competition is absolutly subjectiv, coz it depends on personal feelings.For me they both arewinners, they have got sucha a heavenly level, that words "you are amazing" can be taken as a sign of disrespectfull, coz they are way better than amazin
roll on the next comp please! :D
lol worshipers? haha thats true. there are a ton of worshipers lol
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours, Skora wins in sit downs and upper, in previous videos Arthur was obviously a lot better in both but in these final videos which we are discussing in my honest and non partial opinion, Skora wins. That's not even why I voted for Skora because I didn't go through it like "who was better at what", I voted for the guy with the most skill and obviously Skora is miles ahead. Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora. And well, sitdowns and upper, just look how much Skora improved the past months, it just shows how far behind uppers and sits are compared to the evolution of lower when the best guy in lower starts to practice upper and does top head, back head, perfect side heads etc in just a couple of months.
So you voted on him because he improved rapidly on uppers and sitdowns?
I mean that's what you just said.
Far out i mean arthur might have practiced uppers and sitdowns before on more consistantly level, shall we critize how long?
Furthermore both vids were great, though perhaps the more enjoyable vid might now win.
:thumbsup:
No, that's not what I said. What I said, was, that Skoras video displayed more skill and thats why I voted him. The last parts of my post were a little OT, sorry about that, it seemed to confuse you.
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to clear this up for people, obviously my post was deeply satirical to make a point; and yes Kwas, it was my opinion, i never claimed it to be fact, as this is the discussion topic for the final (you know, the thing where people express their views :thumbsup:). and oli i expect better of a moderator than to start his post with
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours
which is wholly unnecessary to complete that sentance, and whose only use is as a stamp of superiority and as a putdown. gg ubermod, i value your opinion higher than mine too :thumbsup:.
in truth skora and arthur made amazing videos, both of them, although both had small faults too. in fact, id say i like skora's as my favourite video, and i was surprised he made such a high quality vid. so i would vote skora to win based on his vid over arthurs.
however my post was made to highlight the insane amount of dickjockying he gets in comps (yes kwas, he has haters too, but there are no 'minus' votes that you can cast if you thought he made a bad vid). there are people on this forum who can pwn him in sits, upper, creativity, camera angles, editing, general presentation of video, and many combinations of those attributes. however theres no way people can really beat (and in most cases come close to) skora in lowers, and this seems to get him through reguardless. i doubt that skora will lose any round in a comp until someone comes along who does skora-like combos, as for some voters the rest of the vid doesnt seem to matter because skora's lowers are 'soooooo goooooooood'.
in truth, skora made an amazing video and deserves to win with it imo, however the way the voting happens is depressing.
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I liked Arthurs video more...
Skoras skill level was higher but I think Arthur made a more complete video
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Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora.
LOL i couldnt stop laughing at this
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Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora.
LOL i couldnt stop laughing at this
Not that mine are good, I meant it as they are better than mine so when I say they cant compare to Skoras I mean that neither can mine.
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Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora.
LOL i couldnt stop laughing at this
Not that mine are good, I meant it as they are better than mine so when I say they cant compare to Skoras I mean that neither can mine.
cause yours are so good.
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skora i much better than arthur !!!!! skora 2 arthur ! skora ! what dyou see???? skora perfect style lower itd..
:stupid:
skora has hardcore airmoves but not the perfect style
and for me arthur is better than skora in uppers,sittings and creativity
and that are the reasons for i think arthur deserves to win
skora is sick with the airmoves but he didnt have a lot of creativity like arthur
sorry for my bad english :thumbsup:
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And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours, Skora wins in sit downs and upper, in previous videos Arthur was obviously a lot better in both but in these final videos which we are discussing in my honest and non partial opinion, Skora wins. That's not even why I voted for Skora because I didn't go through it like "who was better at what", I voted for the guy with the most skill and obviously Skora is miles ahead. Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora. And well, sitdowns and upper, just look how much Skora improved the past months, it just shows how far behind uppers and sits are compared to the evolution of lower when the best guy in lower starts to practice upper and does top head, back head, perfect side heads etc in just a couple of months.
It's not only about doing the trick. It's about showing control and style while doing it.
I mean, of course his lowers are much better than Arthur's, and it had an evolution in terms of style and control. But saying that his uppers and sit downs are better than Arthur's ( :lol:), imo, is just too much, sorry.
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Oli, you can have your opinion and respected.
But "Skora wins in sit downs and upper" nor the servants of Skora make this affirmation, please, What video do you see ?
"Skora is miles ahead" or you are a slave of king Skora and repeat a phrase to more or you know nothing about creativity and style.
Because, this battle was the Force (Skora) against Creativity and Style (Arthur).
If you say that "Skora is miles ahead" I can accept this in your vision in Lower.
But in creativity and style Skora is behind Arthur in a life, because creativity and style begins with us, and Skora only have these in other life.
Arthur is better than Skora. Arthur deserve win this competition.
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im sorry but skora is not better than arthur in sits and upper. arthur has more control and style on them
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it should be "Best video competition"
not allround... anything else is sensless if you ask me, and this competition with all the arguments prooves it
good luck on next competition ;)
peace and love!
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arthur wins in style
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arthur wins in uppers
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arthur wins in sits
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arthur wins in creativity and allround vid
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skora wins in lower complexity
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skora wins in popularity/meatriding
skora = wins the final :)
conclusion: popularity counts for about 90% of this comp so no one else has a chance.
roll on the next comp please! :D
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours, Skora wins in sit downs and upper, in previous videos Arthur was obviously a lot better in both but in these final videos which we are discussing in my honest and non partial opinion, Skora wins. That's not even why I voted for Skora because I didn't go through it like "who was better at what", I voted for the guy with the most skill and obviously Skora is miles ahead. Arthurs lower compared to Skora.. There is no comparing, Arthur is simply so far away from what Skora does, no shame in this tho, Arthurs lowers are really good even better than mine but in lower nobody can compare to Skora. And well, sitdowns and upper, just look how much Skora improved the past months, it just shows how far behind uppers and sits are compared to the evolution of lower when the best guy in lower starts to practice upper and does top head, back head, perfect side heads etc in just a couple of months.
Respect for this post mate :thumbsup: Nice that there are some people who understand that its much harder to get Skora`s lowers than any sits or uppers by any freestyler... I have a life example: Turlakov started to practice uppers seriously in december and now almost nobody on this planet can redo his head combos.. At the same time he practice lowers seriously about 2 years and his result is smth like satw, amatw amatw nt, amatw-2matw nt - these combos can be redone easily by many people... What does it mean? For me its obviously - the average world level at lowers is much higher than the average world level in sits and uppers! Anybody can become one of the best in sits or uppers if he practice hard abot 1-2 year, but in lowers you need at least 3-4 years... For me Luki is the best upper freestyler on the world - im just shocked by his combos.... BUT, in fact all his uppers skils are on the level of lower combos like 3 amatw nt, 2 ahmatw, latw-alatw, 30 tricks combos (its not more than 20% of Skora`s skills) - i hope you understand me :) So, i dont want to say uppers and sits are easier than lowers - i just say that the average level in lowers is much higher than in sits&uppers.. Peace :)
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skora i much better than arthur !!!!! skora 2 arthur ! skora ! what dyou see???? skora perfect style lower itd..
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5130/picardfacepalmcopy.jpg)
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Facepalming someone for an opinion which is subjectiv, nice going there!
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Facepalming someone for an opinion which is subjectiv, nice going there!
i didnt facepalm him, i facePALMERED him....
anyway, i just wanted to post this pic of palmer, so i just chose any random post, i dont really mean it :biggrin:
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to clear this up for people, obviously my post was deeply satirical to make a point; and yes Kwas, it was my opinion, i never claimed it to be fact, as this is the discussion topic for the final (you know, the thing where people express their views :thumbsup:). and oli i expect better of a moderator than to start his post with
And Sputnik wins dumbest post of the entire history of this forum.
In my opinion which I value higher than yours
which is wholly unnecessary to complete that sentance, and whose only use is as a stamp of superiority and as a putdown. gg ubermod, i value your opinion higher than mine too :thumbsup:.
in truth skora and arthur made amazing videos, both of them, although both had small faults too. in fact, id say i like skora's as my favourite video, and i was surprised he made such a high quality vid. so i would vote skora to win based on his vid over arthurs.
however my post was made to highlight the insane amount of dickjockying he gets in comps (yes kwas, he has haters too, but there are no 'minus' votes that you can cast if you thought he made a bad vid). there are people on this forum who can pwn him in sits, upper, creativity, camera angles, editing, general presentation of video, and many combinations of those attributes. however theres no way people can really beat (and in most cases come close to) skora in lowers, and this seems to get him through reguardless. i doubt that skora will lose any round in a comp until someone comes along who does skora-like combos, as for some voters the rest of the vid doesnt seem to matter because skora's lowers are 'soooooo goooooooood'.
in truth, skora made an amazing video and deserves to win with it imo, however the way the voting happens is depressing.
Sputnik, I know, this topicis dedicated to express view about final round, and soo I did =), I showed my point of view, :thumbsup: Unlucky, that I did not agree with your at all point, but I think that two points is still good score ;)
When aid "haters" I meant that you can find some people who wont never vote on Skóra,he could made extremly allround video, get better style, but you always find comments like" work on style" "boring" etc. =)
Sincerly, Asrthurs video was better for me, even though Skóra is devil of lower !. :rockit:
:pimp:
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congrats pawel.....2 years champ of bf!!!!!
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Facepalming someone for an opinion which is subjectiv, nice going there!
i just wanted to post this pic of palmer, so i just chose any random post, i dont really mean it :biggrin:
(http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg)
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just one thing: whoever says that skora is at arthur's level or near to arthurs level shows that he doesnt have any clue about sits and uppers. arthur owns him by far in these two styles.
but i was shocked about skoras lower and i love his final video
for me arthur won.
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just one thing: whoever says that skora is at arthur's level or near to arthurs level shows that he doesnt have any clue about sits and uppers. arthur owns him by far in these two styles.
but i was shocked about skoras lower and i love his final video
for me arthur won.
In that case you have no clue about lower
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I thought the topic was over, but the Oli revived and I say:
Everything is OK Skora won.
But people trying to say that Skora was better in Upper and Sitdown and it supported in the subjectivity.
It would be like trying to say that Arthur was better than Skora in Lower.
This subjectivity is lifted when Ecuabol in a technically detailed analisys shows why Arthur won.
And Sputnik put punctuation in items and shows the victory of Arthur.
But "Skora is Skora" "Skora is the king" "Skora it a mile" these sentences are subjectives.
Don't try to change the facts and the merits of people.
Congratulations Skora and Arthur!!!
Peace.
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just one thing: whoever says that skora is at arthur's level or near to arthurs level shows that he doesnt have any clue about sits and uppers. arthur owns him by far in these two styles.
but i was shocked about skoras lower and i love his final video
for me arthur won.
In that case you have no clue about lower
dont get that??? ho does your comment refer to my post?
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It is sad that lower rules freestyle. Cancelling out sits and uppers etc.
Its so one dimensional and boring.
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One thing more, ARS tried to show that Lower takes more time than Upper or Sitdown supported in Turkalov.
It can be right but it's not to generalize.
Each one develops his skills according his biotype.
See the biotype of Arthur and Skora are completely different, each one has to utilize his natural skills.
For this, I say that this final battle was of strength of Skora versus the style and creativity of Arthur.
If any attribute would preferably the Football Freestyle is creativity.
The worst to Footbal Frrestyle will be all the people similars (Skoras).
Football Freestyle must be to appreciate the development of all skills (lower, upper, sitdown and gound) with style and creativity and videos and evaluations must show these.
Peace
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just one thing: whoever says that skora is at arthur's level or near to arthurs level in sits and uppers shows that he doesnt have any clue about sits and uppers. arthur owns him by far in these two styles.
but i was shocked about skoras lower and i love his final video
for me arthur won.
In that case you have no clue about lower
dont get that??? ho does your comment refer to my post?
oh yeah i just got it now...... i edited my first post so you may understand now.
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it is 'a best video' competition so imo id go for skora because of the quality of his video, eg good editing and scenes ect
arthurs showed more creatity in sits and lowers but the quality and editing of the video for me wasnt as good as skora
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its not about the editing you jerk off. it has to do with the skill not the editing you dumbass. :stupid:
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Arthur was better in sits and uppers and creativitie for me he won and the edidit was pritty sick
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its not about the editing you jerk off. it has to do with the skill not the editing you dumbass. :stupid:
not at all... the editing of the video (i dont mean the technical editing on vegas, i mean the overall editing of locations, song choice, and effects) makes a video better....
Look at Tom Folans videos, theyre the best coz he makes sick edits...
look at my Amsterdam videos.. i spent a lot of time editing and the videos are class, it would have sucked if i just chose the best combos and put them in a continous 8 minute video
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its not about the editing you jerk off. it has to do with the skill not the editing you dumbass. :stupid:
not at all... the editing of the video (i dont mean the technical editing on vegas, i mean the overall editing of locations, song choice, and effects) makes a video better....
Look at Tom Folans videos, theyre the best coz he makes sick edits...
look at my Amsterdam videos.. i spent a lot of time editing and the videos are class, it would have sucked if i just chose the best combos and put them in a continous 8 minute video
Are they? :dontknow: It's personal choice for everyone...
'it would have sucked if i just chose the best combos and put them in a continous 8 minute video' - or it wouldn't if there were amazing combos
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i liked both videos very much. you both did well. but i chose arthur. The better freestyler is the one who can show extraordinary talent in all areas not just one. and i saw that arthur did have that. he is truly amazing. i have started freestyle before he did and he is way better than me i can tell you that. thats just amazing. I love the fact that his moves like his crossover moves and latw moves are clean meaning he goes around the ball and does the crossover part in crossover moves and makes it look stylish. hardcore moves with style are absolutely lovely. and the creativity he showed with sits and upper were extraordinary. and again he did em with style. He is indeed one of the best alround freestylers in the world. Thats why I had to choose him. Skora did very well too but i wish he would take time for his style to make his moves look perfect specially with his lowers. I mean he can do moves no one on here can do but i just with he would take the time to improve his style a little more on them and i KNOW he more than capable and can do that. If skora can do these impossible moves i now he can make a perfect style is he does. and i know he can. I would like to see more than just ahmatws ahtatws amatws alatws skora atws in his hard combos. I dont know they are just starting to bore me. I mean i get that hes so good at doing them but i just want to see something new. something new thats crazy. and again i know skora can do it cus hes a beast. His sitdowns were alright but not as good as arthurs and style. same with uppers. so thats what i have to say about it. if you dont like oh well its my opinion and if you have to say something about it pm me. hit me up. i dont want arguing to appear on this topic. thanks :cheers:
This is exactly what i mean...
same opinion man :thumbsup:
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wow thank you :hello:
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its not about the editing you jerk off. it has to do with the skill not the editing you dumbass. :stupid:
not at all... the editing of the video (i dont mean the technical editing on vegas, i mean the overall editing of locations, song choice, and effects) makes a video better....
Look at Tom Folans videos, theyre the best coz he makes sick edits...
look at my Amsterdam videos.. i spent a lot of time editing and the videos are class, it would have sucked if i just chose the best combos and put them in a continous 8 minute video
Are they? :dontknow: It's personal choice for everyone...
'it would have sucked if i just chose the best combos and put them in a continous 8 minute video' - or it wouldn't if there were amazing combos
yeah i guess thats true!
even if every combo was amazing, i would rather see a cool video with scenes that show how much fun everyone had, than just showing good combos
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i think it depend..... if you are making a meeting video the editing is very important. you cant watch a 8 minute video without some funny scenes etc.
but if its a 2 min competition video the editing is pretty unimportant IMO.
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well you cant judge the video on the editing. you have to judge it on the skills. this isn't an editing comp
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well you cant judge the video on the editing. you have to judge it on the skills. this isn't an editing comp
That's what I had been trying to prove them for much time some time ago :rolleyes:
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well you cant judge the video on the editing. you have to judge it on the skills. this isn't an editing comp
That's what I had been trying to prove them for much time some time ago :rolleyes:
ur english is hard to understand sumtimes
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well you cant judge the video on the editing. you have to judge it on the skills. this isn't an editing comp
That's what I had been trying to prove them for much time some time ago :rolleyes:
lol
ur english is hard to understand sumtimes
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
I love this forum - i can be insulted easily by any noobs just because i have my own point of view :lol: I can answer you, Lalalala: no, im not a fucking idiot, but obviously you are... If nobody, except Luki, hasnt done Latm, it dosnt mean this trick is the same hard as aeatw for example! I bet everybody can do latm after 1 year of hard upper trainings, but nobody can become one of the best in lowers in 1 year! if you are too stupid to understand this - go and practice, mb it will help you :dontknow:
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
i'm definitely no more of a noob than you are. yes, mikael's uppers are not on the level of skora' lowers, but abdullah's sits and dan magness's uppers definitely are. sure, plenty of people will learn latm soon just because its an uppers trick, not a lowers trick. i respect skora, but i do not like many of his fans. he definitely deserved to finish near the top, but arthur was better in this vid. how many people are doing the level of sitdowns of abdullah. there's probably more people doing patws and skora atws. i know skora can do more than this, but abdullah can do crazy things too. for uppers, how many people can ride a bike doing top head stall? how many people can do sitdowns while doing top head stall? the answer is only dan magness. all styles equal. if you think otherwise, you are definitely the noob. even ground moves have more and more extremes it can be pushed to. there are ground moves as amazing as any skora combos, its just all different.
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
i'm definitely no more of a noob than you are. yes, mikael's uppers are not on the level of skora' lowers, but abdullah's sits and dan magness's uppers definitely are. sure, plenty of people will learn latm soon just because its an uppers trick, not a lowers trick. i respect skora, but i do not like many of his fans. he definitely deserved to finish near the top, but arthur was better in this vid. how many people are doing the level of sitdowns of abdullah. there's probably more people doing patws and skora atws. i know skora can do more than this, but abdullah can do crazy things too. for uppers, how many people can ride a bike doing top head stall? how many people can do sitdowns while doing top head stall? the answer is only dan magness. all styles equal. if you think otherwise, you are definitely the noob. even ground moves have more and more extremes it can be pushed to. there are ground moves as amazing as any skora combos, its just all different.
but definately Skora's lowers-Arthur's lowers > Arthur's sits and uppers - Skora's sits and uppers
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
I know that I'm right, otherwise I wouldn't say that. But see the difference, Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
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abdellahs sits arent better/harder than skoras lowers???? :lol: :lol: please..
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The problem is not that lower is more or less difficult than upper or sd. I think each freestyler develop his skills according his structure or biotype. See the biotype of Arthur and Skora, they are differents. Skora is similar a bull, he is strenght and force and always apply this in his freestyle and he is hardcore only in lowers. Arthur is similar a tiger with plasticity, flexibility, style and creativity and by his biotype he always will be a allrounder with style and creativity. "Never one bull will be a tiger and viceversa".
The problem is if only one fundament (Lower) or (Lower, upper, sd and ground) with creative and style qualify an freestyler.
Because Arthur was better than Skora in upper, sd, creativity and style and Skora only was better than Arthur in Lower, and as Oli say "mile ahead ...", and thus don't need more competitions because the servants or friends define who win and not the freestyle.
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The problem is not that lower is more or less difficult than upper or sd. I think each freestyler develop his skills according his structure or biotype. See the biotype of Arthur and Skora, they are differents. Skora is similar a bull, he is strenght and force and always apply this in his freestyle and he is hardcore only in lowers. Arthur is similar a tiger with plasticity, flexibility, style and creativity and by his biotype he always will be a allrounder with style and creativity. "Never one bull will be a tiger and viceversa".
The problem is if only one fundament (Lower) or (Lower, upper, sd and ground) with creative and style qualify an freestyler.
Because Arthur was better than Skora in upper, sd, creativity and style and Skora only was better than Arthur in Lower, and as Oli say "mile ahead ...", and thus don't need more competitions because the servants or friends define who win and not the freestyle.
Remember Shura vs Sven :lol:
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
I know that I'm right, otherwise I wouldn't say that. But see the difference, Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
just curious, what are all-around skills of skora's minus his sits and uppers? is that his lowers? you just can't comprehend anything than what your biast mind thinks. i'm done arguing. skora is a great freestyler, but on the day arthur was better. i'm ending it on that.
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ARS if you in a year show us similar level of Luki I accept your point of view because you will be proving, but i bet that after a year you will not be in similar level, because each person develop his skills according his biotype. "You can not generalize one case for all the people".
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ARS if you in a year show us similar level of Luki I accept your point of view because you will be proving, but i bet that after a year you will not be in similar level, because each person develop his skills according his biotype. "You can not generalize one case for all the people".
I won`t be in similar level in uppers in one year because i spend most of my powers on lowers and i dont really interested in becoming so good in uppers like Luki - i just want to be not bad n it..
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The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
fuck off! doing a tatw amatw nt is far far easier than becoming as good as Mikael at uppers, or Abdullah at sits.. thats a fuckin insult to those guys, who are masters of their category... tatw amatw nt can be done after 7 or 8 months of freestyle... You cant reach Mikael or Abdullahs level in that time...
Abdullah is a fuckin legend, he invented the coolest trick ever with his creativity and he climbs up lamposts with a ball while doing sits in mid-air at around the age of 50... so tatw amatw nt doesnt even come close to him
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Skora has not trained as long or as hard as abdullah, Abdullah invented almost every sd move.
And if we only saw clips of skora doing lps, do you think his stuff would be as impressive as abdullah? no.
All the footage of abdullah youve seen is live and first take.
So put that up your pipe and shmoke it.
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Skora has not trained as long or as hard as abdullah
Definately not longer but definately harder. Lowers take a lot more energy than sit downs and that's a fact.
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Skora has not trained as long or as hard as abdullah, Abdullah invented almost every sd move.
And if we only saw clips of skora doing lps, do you think his stuff would be as impressive as abdullah? no.
All the footage of abdullah youve seen is live and first take.
So put that up your pipe and shmoke it.
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Skora has not trained as long or as hard as abdullah
Definately not longer but definately harder. Lowers take a lot more energy than sit downs and that's a fact.
who cares. that has nothing to do with the point. styles are equal. i would also argue that abdullah does practice harder than skora, because abdullah does longer hours since he is performing for a living. when he performs i'd say he is out there for 5 or more hours at a time. this makes up for any more physical stress that lowers causes. skora is a great freestyler, but to say he is better than a legend like abdullah is a crime.
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Skora has not trained as long or as hard as abdullah
Definately not longer but definately harder. Lowers take a lot more energy than sit downs and that's a fact.
who cares. that has nothing to do with the point. styles are equal.
No the styles are not equal. Lowers are more dificult, there is more tricks and combos to do, it takes more energy, you need more space than needed for sd/upper to practice it, you cant practice it if your legs are tired, it requires more stamina aswell as strength.
i would also argue that abdullah does practice harder than skora, because abdullah does longer hours since he is performing for a living. when he performs i'd say he is out there for 5 or more hours at a time.
Oh you'd say that? Well about about you actually find out and not say something random.
this makes up for any more physical stress that lowers causes. skora is a great freestyler, but to say he is better than a legend like abdullah is a crime.
No it doesn't. And yeah, he is better than Abdullah. He isn't better at sit downs, but he is better at freestyle and he definately has more skill. In my opinion JK, Linder and Mat are equal or not far from abdullahs level. Can you compare anyone in that way in lower with Skora? Far from.
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
:cheers: :cheers: wow just lovely
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
I know that I'm right, otherwise I wouldn't say that. But see the difference, Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
just curious, what are all-around skills of skora's minus his sits and uppers? is that his lowers? you just can't comprehend anything than what your biast mind thinks. i'm done arguing. skora is a great freestyler, but on the day arthur was better. i'm ending it on that.
1 more time for you - Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
Hahaha, does it make any sence when you're writing posts to him? I think no.
'there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo' - ahahahaah, I respect you guys (Azun and Szymo), but it was really stupid phrase :lol:
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
:lol:
arguing with noobs on beyondfootball; even if you win the argument the noob is still a noob.
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
HAHA , :thumbsup:
ok, you think that some peopel are close to Skoras level on lowers :lol: :lol: :lol:
can somebody do 6 ahmatw - can somebody do 10 amatw-amatw nt , are somebody close to do a skamatw-amatw nt , are somebody close to do aeatw ,,
Answer : is no !!!!
no one can do lowers like Skora do , please watch Skora AIR Combos 3 aand you will se !!!
peace :cheers:
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oli this is why you don't have many fans on this forum. i know that you are a good freestyler, and you do have alot of knowledge in the sport. the problem is that you have an extreme biast for one style. there are always an extreme in some way that you can push any style. there are uppers and sits that are definitely the same level as skora's lowers. also, there are some people who are close to skora's lowers standards in the likes of azun and syzmo, who are both much better freestylers than skora by their all-around freestyle quality.
HAHA , :thumbsup:
ok, you think that some peopel are close to Skoras level on lowers :lol: :lol: :lol:
can somebody do 6 ahmatw - can somebody do 10 amatw-amatw nt , are somebody close to do a skamatw-amatw nt , are somebody close to do aeatw ,,
Answer : is no !!!!
no one can do lowers like Skora do , please watch Skora AIR Combos 3 aand you will se !!!
peace :cheers:
About 6 ahmatws - yeah, Amsti easily can do it, and maybe me If I'm lucky
but yeah, all the rest is amazing...
But the main that Skora can do all 'styles' at its highest level: he has great nts, great hardcore (latw, ahmatw, ahtatw etc.), abbas-moves, long combos...
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It's interesting this topic because people defenders of Skora put things that all the people know: "Skora is the better freestyle in Lower"
But football freestyle is not only Lowers Football Freestyle is Lower, Upper, Sitdown and Ground all this with Style and for me with Creativity.
Skora is the king in Lower, but Upper, Sitdown, Ground, Style and CREATIVITY ?
What creativity is make 6 ahmatw or 10 ahmatw or 100 ahmatw. I think that it is a merit of Skora and he shows strenght and force.
But the Football Freestyle is only this ???
Try to disqualify arguments with "you are noob" is not good. We need arguments, Ecuabol make a extent post with a detailed technical analysis showing why Arthur must be the winner of the competition.
And Sputnik was more objective because he tried to objective given pontuation with itens, and which was the answer "Skora is a mile ahead" "Skora is the king", etc. many things minus arguments.
Fault of arguments is of weak people, Football Freestyle needs to improve and we need people with arguments like Ecuabol and creativity to try to objective anything that now is subcjective.
If not WE NEEED MORE COMPETITIONS BECAUSE THE SERVANTS MAKE WIN TO KING.
Nothing against Skora, because he make his job in the better way, THE PROBLEM IS THE JUDGEMENT AND FAULT OF RULES TO AVOID ALL THIS AND MAINLY THE INJUSTICE.
BECAUSE BY FREESTYLE (lower, upper, sitdown, style, creativity) ARTHUR MUST THE WINNER OF THE COMPETITION OF THIS YEAR !!!.
PEACE !!!
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no need to argue with people who dream of blowing pawel skora. they will never cease to say that skora is far better than everyone else until they have shoved at least one of his balls down their throat.
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no need to argue with people who dream of blowing pawel skora. they will never cease to say that skora is far better than everyone else until they have shoved at least one of his balls down their throat.
You just can't prove it, prove your phrase 'there are some people who are close to skora's lowers'
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no need to argue with people who dream of blowing pawel skora. they will never cease to say that skora is far better than everyone else until they have shoved at least one of his balls down their throat.
You just can't prove it, prove your phrase 'there are some people who are close to skora's lowers'
fine, azun and szymo are extremely close if not as good as skora at lowers. can skora do things like apatw, ptatw, patw inside and outside, paatw, and pmatw. just being able to do those tricks which skora is definitely not as good at as them, makes them pretty much on the same level as skora's lowers. remember skora has only shown the one patw, and it was kind of ugly in comparison. leha, just get on you knees and open your mouth, because the only thing you have shown to your life being good is to suck cock. one day, you might meet skora, and i recommend you just do this, because that is the only thing you are good at.
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no need to argue with people who dream of blowing pawel skora. they will never cease to say that skora is far better than everyone else until they have shoved at least one of his balls down their throat.
You just can't prove it, prove your phrase 'there are some people who are close to skora's lowers'
fine, azun and szymo are extremely close if not as good as skora at lowers. can skora do things like apatw, ptatw, patw inside and outside, paatw, and pmatw. just being able to do those tricks which skora is definitely not as good at as them, makes them pretty much on the same level as skora's lowers. remember skora has only shown the one patw, and it was kind of ugly in comparison. leha, just get on you knees and open your mouth, because the only thing you have shown to your life being good is to suck cock. one day, you might meet skora, and i recommend you just do this, because that is the only thing you are good at.
http://www.beyondfootball.com/forum/index.php/topic,1911.0.html
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no need to argue with people who dream of blowing pawel skora. they will never cease to say that skora is far better than everyone else until they have shoved at least one of his balls down their throat.
You just can't prove it, prove your phrase 'there are some people who are close to skora's lowers'
fine, azun and szymo are extremely close if not as good as skora at lowers. can skora do things like apatw, ptatw, patw inside and outside, paatw, and pmatw. just being able to do those tricks which skora is definitely not as good at as them, makes them pretty much on the same level as skora's lowers. remember skora has only shown the one patw, and it was kind of ugly in comparison. leha, just get on you knees and open your mouth, because the only thing you have shown to your life being good is to suck cock. one day, you might meet skora, and i recommend you just do this, because that is the only thing you are good at.
Hmm, the only 1 thing you are good at is to create some unreal account and write some billshit here, show us ur name, idiot
BTW Has anyone (Azun, Szymo) are close to skmatw-amatw nt, aeatw, so long combos with such style
PS did you ever practice lowers? :rolleyes:
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
ARS you are the dumbest guy ever:D this post really made me laugh :D i thought you were a bit smarter than leha but this post proves you are not :D fuck this is so laughable :D
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
Ahahahaha, you don't even know my level in uppers, you stupid Russian fuck. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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How bout you go an redo every single upper combo that I've done. You have 2 weeks. ;) If you don't do it, we'll all see how much your opinion matters. Looking at your uppers, I wanna puke, ARSy.(Very cool User name, by the way. It suits you perfectly.) One of the ugliest styles, hand usage.. Just stick to lowers and shut your Russian dumpster about shit you know nothing about.
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
I know that I'm right, otherwise I wouldn't say that. But see the difference, Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
just curious, what are all-around skills of skora's minus his sits and uppers? is that his lowers? you just can't comprehend anything than what your biast mind thinks. i'm done arguing. skora is a great freestyler, but on the day arthur was better. i'm ending it on that.
1 more time for you - Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
And one more time for you Freestyle is not mathmatics you dumbass
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P.S. All the Russian fags, stop putting "..." everywhere. It makes you seem even more retarded than you already are.
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leha- if you are saying arthur's sits and uppers are better than skora's sits and uppers i would say you are correct. yes, skora's lowers were better than arthur's. the judging shouldn't have been done on just one style though, but the entire video. on basis of entire performance in the vidoes, arthur wins. he showed to be an extremely high level and provided more all-around quality than skora.
I know that I'm right, otherwise I wouldn't say that. But see the difference, Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
just curious, what are all-around skills of skora's minus his sits and uppers? is that his lowers? you just can't comprehend anything than what your biast mind thinks. i'm done arguing. skora is a great freestyler, but on the day arthur was better. i'm ending it on that.
1 more time for you - Skora's lowers are way on higher level than Arthur's allround minus Skora's sits and uppers
And one more time for you Freestyle is not mathmatics you dumbass
Yeahm agree, I just show that his lowers are much harder, btw why when there were Sven vs Zhura, all tried to prove to me that they voted for Sven not because he was their friends, and now most of you 'you voted for SKora because you pray him and see nothing else'? what's the point here? :rolleyes:
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
I can't believe what I just seen :saywhat: :saywhat: :saywhat:!
Have you ever practice those things at all? If you did practice them, I'm really surprise that you can say such things really.
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ARS if you in a year show us similar level of Luki I accept your point of view because you will be proving, but i bet that after a year you will not be in similar level, because each person develop his skills according his biotype. "You can not generalize one case for all the people".
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Yes, and thank you because somebody actually see my point in previous posts in other topics. Somebody just ain't built for lowers, some just ain't for uppers, sits, or other styles. It's called variations.
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These guys make affirmations and don't want to prove. I think that ARS never in your life not in a year will be in level of best freestyler upper, but the reason posted in others.
All this is the fault of arguments. All this people only repeat "Skora is a mile ahead" "Skora is Skora", "Skora is the king" and similars things.
But arguments as Ecuabol shows nobody and when Sputnik tried to objective with itens and pontuation, the moderetor answer with insult and trying to change the facts.
The people has to understand that our thinking are not ABSOLUTE TRUTHS and we can not generalize one case to all people.
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These guys make affirmations and don't want to prove. I think that ARS never in your life not in a year will be in level of best freestyler upper, but the reason posted in others.
All this is the fault of arguments. All this people only repeat "Skora is a mile ahead" "Skora is Skora", "Skora is the king" and similars things.
But arguments as Ecuabol shows nobody and when Sputnik tried to objective with itens and pontuation, the moderetor answer with insult and trying to change the facts.
The people has to understand that our thinking are not ABSOLUTE TRUTHS and we can not generalize one case to all people.
:cheers:
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These guys make affirmations and don't want to prove. I think that ARS never in your life not in a year will be in level of best freestyler upper, but the reason posted in others.
All this is the fault of arguments. All this people only repeat "Skora is a mile ahead" "Skora is Skora", "Skora is the king" and similars things.
But arguments as Ecuabol shows nobody and when Sputnik tried to objective with itens and pontuation, the moderetor answer with insult and trying to change the facts.
The people has to understand that our thinking are not ABSOLUTE TRUTHS and we can not generalize one case to all people.
Sputnik based his opinion on subjectiv feelings. :thumbsup:. Please stop being irracional. Skóra won, because his video was liked by higher number of user`s than Arthurs video.Is it so hard to understand? I like apples more than chocolate, and appes more than mankeys, I do not have to argue why.ahm, and I am sick of people who judge creativity as seperated style.You judge sits, you always include creativity,so creativiy does not have to be treaten seperately.!!Skóra air is creativ, just look how many tricks he has involved since he started. :thumbsup: If you think that few bounce are more creative than satw, you must stark taking medice pills !! :cheers:
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Kwas don't be afraid of people with ideias. The more easy is that you suggest: don't write nothing.
It's good to Football Freesryle ? Why don't participate of this competition JK, JF, Nan The Man, and others great freestyler ?
I don't know, but it's probably by this type of judgement where the popularity gain of the freestyle. And it will be just.
ARS write "...Anybody can become one of the best in sits or uppers if he practice hard abot 1-2 year, but in lowers you need at least 3-4 years ..."
If this affirmation is right IT'S NOT PRECISE MORE COMPETITIONS IN THE NEXT YEARS because Skora will win with the type of judgement similar now.
Thus, It's probably that this Forum will dye. We are talking about this !!!
Do you want of this Forum ? What is the problem discuss ideias ? What is the service of the Forum ? To write "It's amazing", "Oh my god", etc. do you like only these ?
You should be worried with people that write "Skora is Skora" "Skora is the king" "Skore is a mile ahead" and similars
Football Freestyle need to improve, and to improve is based in ideias similar to Sputnik or Ecuabol and others.
Nothing against Skora, one more Congratulations Skora you won.
Peace.
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Kwas don't be afraid of people with ideias. The more easy is that you suggest: don't write nothing.
It's good to Football Freesryle ? Why don't participate of this competition JK, JF, Nan The Man, and others great freestyler ?
I don't know, but it's probably by this type of judgement where the popularity gain of the freestyle. And it will be just.
ARS write "...Anybody can become one of the best in sits or uppers if he practice hard abot 1-2 year, but in lowers you need at least 3-4 years ..."
If this affirmation is right IT'S NOT PRECISE MORE COMPETITIONS IN THE NEXT YEARS because Skora will win with the type of judgement similar now.
Thus, It's probably that this Forum will dye. We are talking about this !!!
Do you want of this Forum ? What is the problem discuss ideias ? What is the service of the Forum ? To write "It's amazing", "Oh my god", etc. do you like only these ?
You should be worried with people that write "Skora is Skora" "Skora is the king" "Skore is a mile ahead" and similars
Football Freestyle need to improve, and to improve is based in ideias similar to Sputnik or Ecuabol and others.
Nothing against Skora, one more Congratulations Skora you won.
Peace.
Dude Jk, Palle etc. do not compete because they are professional freestylers, the do not have time, they flyoud the world,or country, do live perfomance etc. freetsyle is their job.Look at the list of competitors,all people who compete are kids, who have a lot of free time to spend on recording stuff.Forum does not have to improve, I do not except much of it, for me it is only place,whereI can put my video, set up details about meetings,comment videos, and sometimes exchange thoughts.Online freestyle competitions are only bonus,Online competitions is cheking you patience.
ofcoutse, I can aggre with you at one point. Air is not the hardest style to master.I play all style, and I can say "ground is the hardest to master".To be master of sitdown/upper/ground you have to spend as much time as you are spending on air-style.
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congratulations to skora for becoming 2xs reigning champion on BF by having millions of worshipers wishing to orally please him, and having a the freestyle administrator be a worshiper as well. arthur blew skora out of the water. arthur's uppers and sits were way better than skora's. yes its arguable that skora's lowers were better than arthurs more so than individually arthurs's sits or uppers, but the combinations of the two makes arthur the one who should have won. also to ars who said that skora's lowers are far more difficult than any sits or uppers tricks done by anyone else. you are a fucking idiot. there is always and extreme hardcore way to go in all styles. best example recently would be luki's latm. thats easily as hard as anything skora's doing. all styles are equal, and the best freestylers are the ones who try to be the best at all of them. also grounds need more respect. grounds are an important part, but most people ignore them. just curious oli, did you vote for skora on the redsforlife's poll. my bet says that you did.
All the styles can't be equal - did you see any fser who has been training uppers for 5 years as hard as Skora has been training lowers? Simpliest example...
One close example - Mikael Ivanov :thumbsup:.
5 years? As hard as Skora lowers? :lol: :lol: :lol:
better example uppers dan magness. his upper control is just as good as skora's crazy lowers. sits abdullah his sits are probably better than skora's lowers. look beyond stupid biast. you are just another skora worshiper. grow up and notice there's more than lowers.
The level of Mikael uppers or Abdullah sits are about the level of tatw amatw nt in lowers...
Ahahahaha, you don't even know my level in uppers, you stupid Russian fuck. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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How bout you go an redo every single upper combo that I've done. You have 2 weeks. ;) If you don't do it, we'll all see how much your opinion matters. Looking at your uppers, I wanna puke, ARSy.(Very cool User name, by the way. It suits you perfectly.) One of the ugliest styles, hand usage.. Just stick to lowers and shut your Russian dumpster about shit you know nothing about.
ok man ( i think you are mikael , but anyway )
give me a combo , and i will do it after 2 weeks :rockit:
zhopomovek ,, poshel te naher vanuchen amerikanez , LOH :lol: :lol: :lol:
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These guys make affirmations and don't want to prove. I think that ARS never in your life not in a year will be in level of best freestyler upper, but the reason posted in others.
All this is the fault of arguments. All this people only repeat "Skora is a mile ahead" "Skora is Skora", "Skora is the king" and similars things.
But arguments as Ecuabol shows nobody and when Sputnik tried to objective with itens and pontuation, the moderetor answer with insult and trying to change the facts.
The people has to understand that our thinking are not ABSOLUTE TRUTHS and we can not generalize one case to all people.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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:angry: :angry: :angry: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:Skora won!!! It's over! Oli should close this topic as soon as possible!!! Everyone's going to kill each other!